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Old 12-28-2005, 08:42 AM   #1
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double bass technique

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I have a Virgil styled double stroke per foot technique, that is better than the Ballistic Drumming video that Joe Stronsick has out. Will be putting it on ebay for sale soon, or you can contact me back here. Hint: it's what Steve Gadd does, but different, and like the Gladstone technique, I only throw my leg down once, and get two strokes, in which I can varry the tempo of the strokes (all down) and the speed of the 2nd stroke as well. And I can do it while wearing steel toed boots, to prove Mr. Stronsick wrong on the whole barefoot nonsense.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:12 AM   #2
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:17 AM   #3
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My name is Elmer J Fudd, millionairre. I own a mansion and a yaught.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:53 AM   #4
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Well I'm impressed hehe
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:13 PM   #5
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Another commercial post...

Last edited by C.J. : 12-28-2005 at 03:15 PM.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:05 PM   #6
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hey, be a nice guy and show us your move! its a drummer forum, so.. why not!
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:11 PM   #7
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Yea drummers aren't supposed to keep their "secrets" to themselves
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Old 12-28-2005, 08:54 PM   #8
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Maybe it's secretly Joe trying to sell a new tape, but knows nobody on here will care to buy it...lol...joking.
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:37 AM   #9
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hey, I got this technique. You trow the stick on your snaredrum, and it bounces like 10000 times, all consistent and in time and stuff, but.. but.. I wont tell you how to do it..he...He ....He
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:19 AM   #10
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I can do the same thing, and I'll tell you how without making you buy a video tape on ebay. . .

Play a shuffle pattern with your kick. Think "Hot for Teacher" but with only one foot. Obviously you'll want to slow it down. So if we're thinking triplets like so:

* * *
1 2 3

You would play a long pattern like this:

* - * * - * * - ** - * * - * * - *
1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3

Now here's the only tricky part, and everyone's technique will be slightly different. Using the same motion you use to play the shuffle pattern, simply straighten out the pattern. In other words, if your shuffle is made of pieces of 16th note triplets, you would switch to 16th notes at the same tempo. The trick is to use the bounce of the head, the spring and your ankle all together so you don't burn out your leg. I decided to learn how to do this after seeing JoJo Mayer pull it off. The difference is my foot stays in one spot on the pedal instead of doing a heel/toe thing. The beauty of it is you can use it in little bursts or throw a big long roll into a song while still doing stuff with your hihat.

Mess around with it, a lot of people can do it, they just never thought to try it. If I had a way to post video I would.
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:13 AM   #11
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captain fantasy... cool name!
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Old 01-04-2006, 08:51 AM   #12
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sorry your not interested in learning

No, I am sorry, but instruction is instruction...some of you are not impressed, and frankly, I see no point in the Elmer J. Fudd quote???
It's a post forum, alright, but news is news, no matter what the news and no I am not a corporation, no am I Joe Stronsick.

To the guy who posted his technique, yeah your close, but mine is easier, less action required, and I do it live and in clinic (yeah, I play clinics that I host for my school district). Just trying to earn to a decent living.

It's easy to condemn and judge, but like Steve Smith says, learn as much as you can, and like Bobby Rock, it's better to have a bag of tricks then only few. If you don't want to learn, don't. You want other drummers to drool over your solos, like they do mine, then learn.

How many of you can play extreme fast doubles per foot, make it sound good and loud, and vary the tempo and speed of the second stroke? Hot for teacher is cool, but I am talking extreme tempos, while playing extreme triples with the hands, at insane tempos? And how many clinics and shows do you guys play? Are you instantly recognized on the streets of your city? Didn't think so. Instead of beating someone up, and poking fun at someone who discovers something, give them some respect. If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.


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Hey,
I have a Virgil styled double stroke per foot technique, that is better than the Ballistic Drumming video that Joe Stronsick has out. Will be putting it on ebay for sale soon, or you can contact me back here. Hint: it's what Steve Gadd does, but different, and like the Gladstone technique, I only throw my leg down once, and get two strokes, in which I can varry the tempo of the strokes (all down) and the speed of the 2nd stroke as well. And I can do it while wearing steel toed boots, to prove Mr. Stronsick wrong on the whole barefoot nonsense.
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Old 01-04-2006, 08:53 AM   #13
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Thanks

Thanks for solutation.

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Old 01-04-2006, 09:26 AM   #14
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The Elmer quote came from a guy who does all the things in your last paragraph--plays fast, intricate things, lots of gigs, teaches, and is well known. I'll trust his judgement.
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Old 01-04-2006, 02:00 PM   #15
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mtkenney,

I think you be uploading a video preview of what your technique allows you to achieve.
Not asking you for close up details of how it's done, but if anyone would even considering spending a cent on a video by some unknown drummer - i'm sure they'd like to see whether it's worth it first.
Just like putting a trailer on TV for a cinema release.

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