Xen-

I'm having a hard time playing doubles with my feet. My left foot is really weak technically. I believe I have two options: Either keep playing rudiments so it might catch up one day, or play rock/funk beats with left foot leading on bass drum.

Any suggestions?

Milo Porto

Xen...play with a click, start slow....try to accent on every chrochet/quater note...and do paradiddles with both your feet...i.e. RRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLL

or come up with combinations...i.e.

RRRLLLRRRLLLRRRLLLRRRLLL LLLRRRLLLRRRLLLRRRLLLRRR

RRRLL LLLRR RRRLL LLLRR...etc

you can even try coming up with ridiculous combinations...it might look stupid but im sure it helps in the long run....i.e.



RRLLRLRRLRLRLLRLRLRLRLRRLLRLLRLRRLRLLRLRLLRLRRLRRL RRLRRLRRLRRLRRLLRLRLLRLRLRRLRLRLLRLRLRR...etc

hope it helps..!!

do regular runs maybe minimum 3 times per week...for 30min or 45min!


p.s. im also working on my doubles on my feet...AARRGGHHHH frustrating izznt it..!!

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Xen-

Thanks Milo, but I'm already doing all those rudiments like parradiddles, flam triplets, drags. The problem is mostly the way my left foot slides.

With my right foot, the first hit(s) require practically no leg movement, then I slam it for the final hit. The whole movement is sliding the foot forward.

On the other side, my left foot requires a first hit that is way to powerful and ends with the weakers hits. It's the exact contrary. The speed is also dramatically slower.

I control the tempo, it's mostly the power that gives the balance between the feet that just won't work.


BTW I'm also a running machine. I've stopped for a while and realized it's more important than it looks. Run!

jonberg

I´m going to tour with our music-class around in sweden and in norway, and we will play different kinds of music and styles. We are going to play dogboots just to have some kind of progressive kind of music. That will be fun, I will practise a little extra on the doubles the next couples of days I will play it in around 186bpm probably.

Just be stubborn with your doubles and it will work out just fine.
Practise different patterns besides doubles as well.
Good luck!

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Milo Porto

you might wanna try just playing your pedals so as to make the beater tap the head only...not smack the head but just tap the head, then slowly dynamically play it from taps to smacks! just by doing the simple RRLLRRLLRRLLRRLL only....!! trying that now VERY VERY VERY VERY SLL........OOOOOO....LLL..YYYYYYYY!!

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timthedrummer

yeh its kinda frustrating developing ur doubles- just think about the time u developed ur hand doubles!!
the way i develop them is
- playing along to linkin park (cuz linkin park have very simple feels/song structure) doin 16th note doubles to all the songs (this way i dont get bored and u cant really hear the doubles cuz i have good in ear monitors in) so i dont get frustrated!
- playing along to songs with just my left foot doing lots of double spurts

keep perserveering u'll get there!!

peter

Xen,

Have you tried moving down on the footboard?

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Xen-

I'm getting better at it everyday now, giving doubles about an hour or two.

When going at faster tempos (+170bpm), do you use the same motion or do you get a ''wobbling'' in your ankles?

peter

Xen-,

Some might differ but I use more
leg weight and push at higher bpm.

Have you tried moving your foot
down on the footboard?

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alencore

learn to play the 16 note samba bass drum beat on your left foot.

do it slowly at first then soon it will go up to speed.

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Xen-

Peter, I think moving the foot down on the footboard is like cheating as I gain speed but loose control while power remains.

peter

Well, I can't change how you
feel about doing it.

Let me just tell you that a LOT
of great players use the lower
portion of the footboard, as
well as the upper portion.

Not that I'm calling myself a
great player but my kick is not
so bad and I use both.

You CAN control the lower foot-
board. I do not agree with the
idea that the use of the lower
part of the footboard is "cheat-
ing". It is a part of footboard
and there for a reason.

This is about physics, as well
skill. At least, think about it.

I'll give you two players who
use the lower portion of the
footboard to engage their
strokes. One is David Weckl
and the other is Dennis
Chambers. I kind of like their
kicks. A lot of other players do
too. Of course, I can be wrong
but it might work for you.

Let me ask you something,
Xen-... Do you think that using
the rebound of the head is
cheating? I mean on your
snare or tom, for that matter.
What is the difference? Can
you tell me where you got
that idea? The best double-
kickers are not 100% in con-
trol of the 2nd-stroke.

Don't set yourself up for dis-
appointment. Get the result
any way you can and THEN
refine it. The more results
you get, the more motivated
you will be to refine them.

That's my take, at least.

I just want you to succeed.

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Xen-

Using both is perfect, that's actually what I do. I only think that ALWAYS playing on the lower part isn't a great idea.

peter

I don't always play down there
though I am trying to, more and
more and it's coming along.

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