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Old 10-18-2004, 01:07 PM   #1
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What's a vruk? What are its advantages?

I checked out the Vruk web site, but didn't understand a thing. Does it somehow allow you to add heel strokes? Is that it?

Also, does Virgil use one? If not, who does?

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Old 10-18-2004, 01:13 PM   #2
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i dont know the details of how it works, but im positive virgil doesnt use one!!! im sure hed think of that s cheating!
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Old 10-18-2004, 01:20 PM   #3
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www.drumcanman.com im sure this is where u heard of it but if not..
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Old 10-18-2004, 01:33 PM   #4
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It's an attachment that makes it easier to play with heelstrokes. It isn't actually necessary if you wanna play heel and toe - you can do that on just about any regular pedal - I'm in the process of learning this myself...it can enable you to do some sick stuff, and I'm pretty optimistic about my future with this technique.

With this technique I can have each of my feet play really powerful singlestrokes at quite high tempos, like 8th in 220-240BPM, and I'm able to start them straight on and consistently. Something I can only do the regular way on a really good day when I'm warmed up really well. Now I just need to get my feet coordinated. That's a bit more tough, but it's definately getting better. Sometimes I get a glimpse of what can be done with this, and it's very promising. I'll post more on that later on...

But with respect to the VRUK, I'm sure it makes it easier, but it's not necessary....and it's more like cheating than doing it without - plus you'll need to bring it with you whereever you go...
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Old 10-18-2004, 06:24 PM   #5
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vruk is a pedal that helps you perform double stroke on the bass drums more effeciently
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Old 10-18-2004, 06:39 PM   #6
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Type it into the Search and you'll get to my posts
on it, including video.
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Old 10-23-2004, 09:33 AM   #7
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if i may have one, i think those vruk are quite ok if use on auxilliary hi-hat pedal since you can play medium tempo 16 notes on them on one pedal. for bass drum pedals i'd rather develop that technique mentioned by Fede.
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:46 PM   #8
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singlestrokes at quite high tempos, like 8th in 220-240BPM,

8th notes at 240 is equal to 16th notes at 120 which really isn't that fast.
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:47 PM   #9
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8th notes at 240 is equal to 16th notes at 120 which really isn't that fast.


I was talking pr. foot!
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Old 11-01-2004, 05:00 PM   #10
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What does Vruk stand for? Anybody knows?


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Old 11-01-2004, 06:23 PM   #11
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It's supposedly the name of the inventor, Mr.Vuk V Vruk.....weird name....

I'm not very convinced with that whole Vruk-thing, and I think it IS "cheating" to some degree... Judging from the endorsements he presents, it seems like he's sort of reaching into thin air. I mean - he has gotten Tim W. to say some stuff about it, but as far as I know Tim is not using it anywhere else. Likewise with Jojo Mayer - he has a few fotos of himself and Jojo, and a quote or two where Jojo says something like "it makes the technique EASIER to master" - but he does not imply that is necessary.

The technique I was talking about earlier in this thread, that I regretfully have not been able to practice since I haven't been home these last 3 weeks, is the one the very same Jojo Mayer is demonstrating in this clip:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/jojomayerbass.html

Think of the possibilities of this applied to two pedals! (The hands-stuff is not boring either....)
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:01 AM   #12
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My player wouldn't give me sound -- and I couldn't really make out what JoJo was doing. Was that heel-toe or hit-slide or what?

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Old 11-02-2004, 10:17 AM   #13
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My player wouldn't give me sound -- and I couldn't really make out what JoJo was doing. Was that heel-toe or hit-slide or what?

Thanks.

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It's heel-toe. Do yourself the favour of getting to watch it with sound! It's incredible!
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:18 AM   #14
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His name is Vuk. He's a very nice guy and with
a fine idea. Again, find the related threads. It's
no more cheating than using a Speed King Pedal.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:09 AM   #15
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What's a Speed King Pedal and how does it work? Why do some consider it cheating?

Thanks.

And thanks for the response, Fede.

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