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Old 02-24-2007, 11:55 AM   #16
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if u count it fast,u start with the 2 strokes of the bass drum counted as quarters,which is the way you count it,right?But that way it is NOT played as measures of continuous 9/4 measures,but if u'll notice in the beginning he plays 3measures of4/4 and then the fourth one is in 9/8.Then,this cycle changes,so it is not constant.

Now,if u count the first 2 strokes of the kick as eighths,u get the other picture (which is more correct because the Zeybekiko is mostly in 9/4 and not in 9/8),one measure of 8/4 and another one of 9/4,as far as the beginning is concerned and then u can go on like that,etc,etc.

I see what u mean with the triplets,i agree!What i meant was that if u count the accents as quarters,then u can hear yourself(not correctly of course,but rhythmically illuded,ok) playing triplets in a faster tempo!Don't misunderstand me,i know what u mean,i was talking about the sound effect we produce when playing such groupings.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:16 PM   #17
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I listened to it closely and Panos is plays the following with his kick:

The first two bars are clearly (starting from :04)
x-x--- x-x--- x--- | x-x--- x-x--- x--- | x--- (9/4)
The next bar is:
x-x--- x-x--- x--- | x-x--- x-x--- x--- (8/4)

Breakdown from beginning (:04)
On the sixth bar, the foot pattern moves away from the ostinato.

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Old 02-24-2007, 05:57 PM   #18
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Ok, Grandpa - that's how I'd count it too!

Stavro - yes, but the polyrhythmic effect is totally missing then...!
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:57 AM   #19
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Matthias u're right man!But what if the band provides u the initial quarter note pulse?U know,in that case the one complements the other!
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