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peter 11-16-2003 07:53 PM

More on Pedals (Iron Cobra)
 
You have heard me expound
on the Axis-A Longboards and
Pearl Eliminators. It's time I talk
about the Tama Iron-Cobras. I
own one of these too.

Well, in the past, as it came from
the manufacturer, I found that
pedal had too much play. To-
night, I took the spring off the
pedal and replaced it with a
much heavier gauge altern-
ative and what I found, you
really have to try out.

You need the beater back from
the surface of the head faster.
This can help to the trick, if
you are not satisfied with it.

I was well over 200bpm, with
good clean double-strokes,
using the spring. I did have
to adjust the beater distance
to the head but am VERY, VERY
pleased with the outcome.

Check it out, guys! Really!

:)

quitou 11-16-2003 08:58 PM

Hey Peter,
What's your opinion on the beater of the Iron Cobra....I've heard that some people really like it and others hate it...wadda you say????

peter 11-17-2003 07:10 AM

I don't like it (the IC Beater)
and here is my reason:

The problem with these types
beaters is that they require
that the drummer push the
footboard down further. It is
too small. It's the same, with
all of these "pad-beaters", in-
cluding the Sonic Hammer from
Axis, which I do not like (too
heavy), having replaced it with
quads from Pearl but any more
conventional beater is better,
in my opinion.

It's hard enough, getting the
beaters to the head, as it is.
I hope I'm illustrating it well
enough.

Now, some drummers are go-
ing to say that this is actually
good because the beater comes
back faster, with the compens-
ation of a lower spring-tension.
I have to experiment with this
more. I will let you know later
on, today. :)



peter 11-17-2003 08:04 AM

GDrummer,

I was wondering if you have
experimented with the IC's
spring (changing it etc.) and
what your opinions are about
the beater etc., your getting
such good action on it. :)

jimi 11-17-2003 12:53 PM

Will that change the weight of the pedal? I still have to get a new spring but i guess the need for it isnt in the forefront of my mind, i must admit i'm still on half comfortable with my ICs, not that i know what an ideal for me is, i just know i haven't got there yet.

peter 11-17-2003 01:08 PM

It will be a little stiffer but the
positioning of the beater, closer
to the head/pad, should comp-
ensate for it and the added
tension will pull back the beat-
er more quickly. You have to
try it and see how you like it.

This is with it:

www.thediametrixletter.com/vozsolo4.mp3

I'm also using the pad/beater
that came with the pedal and
slightly adjusted.

jimi 11-18-2003 03:39 AM

Ok maybe if i find a place with springs i'll give it a try, bloody broke and in debt from going to see Virgil though!
At least i know what to do to tackle that anyway peter, thanks!:D

alencore 11-18-2003 05:11 AM

I got a few moments with these pedals. Last Sunday b-day jam I got to use one. I like the beater but i hate the foot plate. Since I'm using the slide up technique my foot tend (or maybe bec. i was wearing sandals then) to get cought on the foot pedal logos or whatnot.
Beside that it's a nice pedal.

But the latest yamaha pedals has a new design (although not really new) which really makes the two posts holding the cams much stiffer thus smoother pedal action and longer lifespand.

peter 11-18-2003 07:08 AM

Wear different shoes for the
footboard. They have to be
leather or perhaps really hard
rubber. That should allow you
to slide enough.

The heavier spring, with the
re-positioning of the beater,
should take care of the feel.
It's not going to hurt.

Give it a try. :)

alencore 11-19-2003 06:25 AM

ok tnx.


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