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Qaatar 06-01-2005 08:40 AM

What kind of technique do you use? If you use a lot of ankle (and not leg), setting the VDL extremely low might help with speed and volume, especially at higher tempos. However, if you do this, you should also set the beater distance to around 3-4" or so to compensate for when you are playing eighths or slower sixteenths, as a low VDL really sort of hampers med-speed playing (at least in my case, as I used to play heel-down). Also, do you play flat-footed?

peter 06-01-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blast_Duck
Oh. It's a shame i live in the UK, i believe there isn't anywhere here where you can buy the Axis accessories (springs / riser kits).

Do you think I should try the springs from my Iron Cobra Jr. pedals? Or will there be a compatability issue?


Darryl would ship, I am sure. :)

Blast_Duck 06-02-2005 07:36 AM

I'll give it a think. thanks peter.

i have one problem/question.

Somehow i cant get the slave and master pedals on my double pedal to be identical.
I noticed that the master pedal beater rocks back and forth many more times after releasing my foot from the pedal then the slave pedal. This also means that when releasing my feet from the pedals simultaneously the beaters do not rock back and forth in sync.

Also the slave pedal after playing for a while, seems to resist more when the beater gets closer to the head. I loosened the VDL cam and raised it a little then tightened it back on which solves it until it does it again 5 minute later.

Basically i need to get the left feeling like the right.

scottevtv 08-27-2005 11:11 AM

Are the toe spacers still a seperate purchase?

Blast_Duck 09-07-2005 01:15 PM

yeh unfortunately. I may have to make my own out of wood or something... good idea?

scottevtv 10-07-2005 03:58 PM

Hey Peter, I was thinking of putting some Slug Beaters on my Axis 'A's. These would be in place of the Sonic Hammers. What do you think? I think I want to replace the Hammers and I am not sure what type of beater to look at..

Blast_Duck 10-08-2005 06:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottevtv
Hey Peter, I was thinking of putting some Slug Beaters on my Axis 'A's. These would be in place of the Sonic Hammers. What do you think? I think I want to replace the Hammers and I am not sure what type of beater to look at..


i know you asked peter but i bought the AXIS A double a few months ago and i like the Iron Cobra felt beaters.

scottevtv 10-08-2005 09:45 AM

Yeah, I have seen a bunch of people using the Tama beaters on their Axis pedals.. I would have to try it. Next time I go to my drum store I want to look at Slug Beaters and the Puresound Speedball beaters.. Does any one have either one and how do you like them on your Axis pedals?

Blast_Duck 10-10-2005 06:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottevtv
Yeah, I have seen a bunch of people using the Tama beaters on their Axis pedals.. I would have to try it. Next time I go to my drum store I want to look at Slug Beaters and the Puresound Speedball beaters.. Does any one have either one and how do you like them on your Axis pedals?


I have never heard of anyone using anything other than TAMA IC/Pearl Quad/Danmar wood/Marksman/Sonic Hammers on their AXIS pedals. Give em a try scottevtv.

peter 10-14-2005 09:02 AM

Hey, Blast. Sorry I have not been around
as much. Markets are crazy.

I use Quads on mine. I love the feel of them.
I would go for anything lighter and btw, use
those weights that are available from Pearl
too. Experiement and see what you like.

The only thing I hate about Axis are all the
Allen screws and the lack of changeability, on
the fly, that I think pedals like the Eliminator or
perhaps this new Trick pedal have.

Blast_Duck 10-17-2005 06:26 AM

Hello again Peter how is life?
I hear a lot of people using pearl quads on their AXIS.
Be sure to give a very detailed review of the new trick pedal when you get the chance to try one, i look forward to hearing exactly what it has over other pedals and whether it really is worth the ridiculous money it is anticipated to cost.
I am unfortunatley leaving the AXIS Army due to hiccups on my slave pedal and difficulty of repair being so far from the USA.
Peter, I have read the entire thread and you are easily the most articulate and descriptive person on the forum and i would appreciate it if you could go into detail about your Eliminators which you have brushed over a few times throughout the forum. If you are busy no worries.
Thanks man.
BD

cjcdrums 10-17-2005 09:22 PM

Peter's the man, no doubt about it! :D

peter 10-17-2005 09:34 PM

BD,

Well, of course, I hate to lose a good man but
I realize that the Axis pedals are not perfect. I
would change some things, if it were left up to
me. I have not experienced the problem that
you have described. I love my twins, though I
am sending one in for some service that I am
apparently unable to apply, myself.

Anyway, it seems like your mind is set and so,
I want to help you find an alternative and there
are some. In my opinion, what you need to do
is emulate the VDL. That is what makes the
Axis-A the A#1 pedal, in my book but people
are onto it. Case in point, the Pacific Boa-Pedal.

This pedal has a revolutionary design that you
should try out. By moving the footboard forward,
you can increase the beater response, much like
the Axis-A experiences, with the VDL. You have
to use an Allen-wrench (LOL) but you get real
changeability, with very little movement in the
footboard. I think you will like the action. Give
it a try and see what you think. It is SO quiet
and very smooth. I really think it's cool. It is
a great concept. The bummer is that I have
been waiting for it for two years and they said
it would be priced under $150. Hah!

Before I forget, plan on spending $200 plus for
each Boa-Pedal (another constrictor on the
wallet). LOL

As for Eliminators, I just talked, again, about
them in another thread and have, many times,
here and at HOD. Again, for the money, these
pedals are the best buy and give you the best
in response in the price class. Plan on $130,
for the Eliminator. Killer price.

The DW9K is a fine pedal and offers a 'Universal-
Cam' but the adjustments are not radical enough
for me. The Eliminator gives better response, with
the Black, Blue, Purple and Red Cams - the latter
of which provide the best response. I prefer the
belts, like Virgil - choosing Purple and Blues, most
of the time. Check the related threads for lots
of info on them, including other official info. And
I love these pedals, by the way. Plan to spend
$200 plus on the DW9K. Too much, for me.

The DW7K is not a bad value and come with a
decent cam-design (quasi-radical). Try it. The
price is right, if the response is. You won't know
until you try it. I kind of liked it. I bought a
couple for my nephew and he loves them but
then the price was right for him. hehe

I will let you know about the Trick pedal, when
I play them. I was invited out there a while back
but things have been really busy. I will get to
these, eventually. I promise. I hear good things.
I like the idea of the compression spring. There
is a lever pulldown adjustment that I am inter-
ested in, which is supposedly another Universal-
Cam device, which I think is absolutely necessary,
being spoiled, as we are. I like what I have seen
and heard, so far.

There are some good reviews on the Giant-Step.
I have seen photos of it but have not played it.
I have not been convinced about that design but
again, I have not played it. Forget the price.

I don't think I can ever play a pedal that does
not have some kind of Universal-Cam system.
I have to have the radical settings, like you
get with the VDL, the Blue, Purple and Red
Cams and the Power-Shifter.

Your best bet, right now, is the Boa-Pedal, the
Trick Pedal (Oh! My buddy, Brad, at HOD, played
one and loved it, btw) and the Eliminator. That
is my opinion.

Oh! The Yamaha Flying Dragons are nice but
do not have a Universal-Cam System. It's hit
or miss with them. Hassy loves 'em, so you
might. You never know. Try them. These are
around $140, I think.

If you were going to ask about the Iron-Cobra,
I have one but do not think it compares, with
other designs. Best of luck and I'll keep an eye
out, always looking at the new ideas. These
are around $130, I think.

PS: If you still have the Axis-A's and can take
a picture of them, set-up, with the problem
issue, somehow illustrated, I would be glad to
look at them. Derek and some of the other
hardened guys would look at them too. I am
sure. We all want to help.

Blast_Duck 10-18-2005 01:15 PM

Helpful as always Peter. Thanks.
The problem i am experiencing can not be taken a picture of..imagine this...
You sit at your twin pedal and u put your right foot on the SLAVE pedal. It feels heavier and not as responsive as the main pedal, considerably. Also you can hear some 'clackety clacking' coming from the slave and you can feel something loose coming from what seems to be the region where the linkage shaft connects with the slave axle. Im going to give it one last bench inspection and i'll let u know anything new i find.
Thanks again,
BD

peter 10-18-2005 01:29 PM

BD - Send it in for servicing. That's what I
would do. For back-up, consider some of
the other alternatives, I have brought up.

As soon as I can, I will get info out on the
Trick pedal. If we're luck, Brad will visit and
say a few more words.


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