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mike portnoy
07-16-2003, 01:04 AM
wondert what would happen if you put virgil donati and joey jordison(slipknot) in a comp for fastest double pedals!!!??

jonberg
07-16-2003, 02:27 AM
Well, I wonder what would happen if you put virgil donati and joey jordison(slipknot) in a comp for double pedal control and finesse!!!??

snirp
07-16-2003, 03:11 AM
little slipknot boy would go home crying. i cant believe you even proposed him as a challenge, and stop using portnoys name!

morgenthaler
07-16-2003, 04:10 AM
Another speed threat?........
Didn´t Tim Waterson put and end to those.....

mike portnoy
07-16-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by snirp
little slipknot boy would go home crying. i cant believe you even proposed him as a challenge, and stop using portnoys name!

peace brother!!! :D

portnoy happens to be me hero as much as virgil is...:D

kirk
07-16-2003, 03:24 PM
Virgil has the WHOLE package down. Speed, creativity, variety, fluidity,consistency,projection,endurance,complexity that is why he is the best at what he does. Waterson is fast that is where the comparisons stop. the only guy who might come close(but no cigar) is Lang but Virgil still has got the BIG overall edge.

regards Kirk

mike portnoy
07-16-2003, 10:48 PM
IMHO virgil kicks ass in terms of creativity and speed BUT joey is down right BRUTAL manzz!!

Fede
07-17-2003, 01:32 AM
Why Joey? (and why Portnoy?)

What happened to Reno Killerich, Derek Roddy, Gene Hoglan, Sean Reinert, Richard Christy, Pete Sandoval, Nick Barker and many others?

You might wanna check out Heavy Metal through other resources than MTV...

DavidPartay
07-17-2003, 02:26 PM
Yeah, Slipknot is to metal what Good Charlotte is to the Ramones.

mike portnoy
07-17-2003, 03:07 PM
why joey (and why portnoy)???

cos koey kicks ass..AND portnoy kicks ass too manzz!:D :D :D :D :D :D yup!! there's the prob here in singapore as much as i luuurve metal..BUT all we have here is just pussy MTV!! not just any MTV its MTV asia!! ARGH!!!! screw BOYBANDS!!!!

so all i can do is too rely on my internet!!:D :D if you have any good sites to recommend please do suggest, that will be greatly appreciated!!!

DoubleBass_Rob
07-18-2003, 06:24 AM
Lang is definately heavy competition for Virg. Anyone who's seen Lang's heel up and down approach to applying accented and non accented notes, knows what I'm talking about. Not to mention his rudimental capabilities.

Adam
07-18-2003, 12:44 PM
Joey honestly sucks. I mean...very little talent. A monkey can learn to be fast. For kicks I downloaded a drum solo by him and it's the sloppiest sounding thing I've ever heard.

kirk
07-18-2003, 07:35 PM
Funny story i heard on the HOD(house of drumming) site. A guy who posts there alot, Derek I believe it was. He went to a recent clinic(in the last 6 months anyways) and Virgil was showing some rudimental exercises for the double pedal and he was letting people shout out rudiments they wanted him to try, and one guy
yelled out HEY! show us a triple paradiddlediddle and I think there was even a double thrown in there(it was some wacked out rudiment) somewhere and Derek says guys were looking around at eachother saying MAN is that even an official rudiment waiting for Virgil to do something and Virgil is like O.K. no sweat and so he starts up and Derek says in a few seconds he is playing this ridiculously complex Rudiment at an incredible speed with absolute control and fluidity and guys are just shaking their heads in disbelief. What can he NOT do!:eek: :eek:

Regards Kirk

jonberg
07-19-2003, 04:14 AM
Great story Kirk :D

I was exposed to kind of the same thing on a clinic with him, but this with his sticks, he showed paradiddles,doubles,flams,singles and so on at one hell of a tempo.
Go Virg :)

TUDW
08-16-2003, 03:35 AM
just letting you know that were talking VIRGIL DONATI and other GOOD drummers like Dave and Phillips. Its cool if slipknot is your hero, ok. But please go elswere were for not as talanted as virg people and so on.

quitou
08-16-2003, 11:06 AM
Of course I feel Virg is the king when it comes to anything related with feet...speed, finesse, technique...the man has it all. Obviously guys like Lang and Mangini are killers with their feet as well. Another guy who impresses me with his sheer speed and power on the double bass is Dave Lombardo from Slayer...he only plays singles, but boy are they ever fast...and clean and LOUD (and he can keep them going forever...killer endurance)!!! Definitely one of the faster double bass players (with singles) that I have ever heard.

candyman
08-16-2003, 02:48 PM
I think Grant Collins deserves some mention. He can play rudimental solos with his feet. He doesn't get very much publicity, but his feet are phenomenal.

quitou
08-16-2003, 06:54 PM
Candyman,
I think I have to agree with you about Grant Collins. I'll admit that I've heard very little from him, but I have checked out his web page and seen some of the video clips and listenned to the audio clips of him playing. His feet are definitely something else. There's a thread on this message board about most underrated drummers...maybe Grant Collins should be added to the list. I'm sure we'll all know him in years to come. Check out his site...

http://www.grantsollins.com

I recommend looking at pictures of his pedal setup...let me tell you, it makes Bozzio's set up look like nothing

quitou
08-16-2003, 06:55 PM
I typed the address incorrectly...lets try this again

http://www.grantcollins.com

peter
08-16-2003, 07:24 PM
Very interesting.

I liked what he had to say abou the
left hand, on his site, as well.

BrettLee
08-17-2003, 11:00 PM
I'm on your side Virgil, of all the guys mentioned in this thread, nothing beats you, in terms of drumming in the overall aspect(speed, endurance, licks, finnese, etc).. I was once very hooked at Mike Portnoy's playing especially with his band, Dream Theater. His fills and groove really digged me right under. BUt after awhile, you'd noticed that his playing, over the years has been rather same.. He constantly uses the same pattern/lick over and over again, no dynamics, and this becomes unexciting anymore to listen to him..

Virgil to me, is balanced or rather extremely good in all areas... He's definitely the better drummer, and someone who we all, should pay close attention too..

My intention here is not to hurt anyone's feelings, but rather to show you guys how much of a Virgil fan I am and I'm with him, because of the impossible things he has proven in the drumming world.. :)

v1rotate
08-18-2003, 01:34 PM
Saw Mike Portnoy play with the OTV band some years ago in Melbourne at TUDW. I have to say, his time and chops were all over the place. Maybe he was having a bad day.

I agree with BrettLee, his playing hasn't changed that much.

jimi
08-18-2003, 03:47 PM
really, i always considered portnoy to have good basics no matter how far behind the best drummers he is, and yes a reinvention of his drumming style would be nice sometime.

@v1rotate: checks your PMs!

candyman
08-18-2003, 03:55 PM
I think Portnoy does what he does with Dream Theater, Liquid Tension, very well. The fact that he doesn't measure up to Virgil doesn't mean he is not a great drummer. There is guys out there that can't even touch Portnoy. It's like trying to compare Kobe or Tracy Magrady to Michael Jordan. There is no comparsion but that doesn't mean they don't have skills. I think the same analogy applies to Virgil,Vinnie and the rest of the drumworld.

rythmtroll
08-18-2003, 04:08 PM
Please never comparte a MAINSTREAM "MTV" drummer to Mr. Donati. The mainstream has ruined the mind of millions. ITS A HUGE MUSIC CONSPIRACY!!!!!! Its up to ALL OF US NOW to expand our thoughts and creativty beyond 120 bpm, 4/4 MAINSTREAM BULLSHIT!!!! There is nothing wrong with 4/4 but when you limit yourself to that there you are stuck. Cant expand and its all you become. SLIPKNOT IS ALL SHOW. THEY ACT "CRAZY" AND"SIC" BUT THATS ALL A TOOL FOR HOW CHEEZY THERE MUSIC REALLY IS. "POP ROCK"AT ITS FINEST!!!!! SHANATIGANS I TELL YA!! SHANATIGANS!!!!!!! RythmTroll here, signing out. JOEY IS "FAST" BUT WHATEVER! HOW BOUT ENDURANCE? YEAH I THOUGHT SO.

BrettLee
08-18-2003, 06:35 PM
hehe.. rythmtroll, gimme five!!

Yeah guys, probably what best Mike could do, is to re-invent himself?! Just like Prof Neil Peart? Anyway what you guys think about Neil Peart's new invention? I think it's awesome, but he mustn't stick with it too much, cause I personally think it doesn't suit to RUSH's music.. The drums just wont cut through, unless Virgil played.. hehe:D

kewlkat
12-31-2004, 11:18 AM
If I were you I would leave Dr. Peart out of this. His solo has attracted fans to concerts alone. I went and saw him live this past summer on Rush's 30th Anniversary tour and he was the main reason my uncle and I went. What I'm saying is don't mess with the Doctor. Oh yeah I wish I had two right feet also. :D

vdreignsuponus1
12-31-2004, 11:59 AM
derek roddy is a good example of bad ass double bass. joey, so ive seen his name in here, yeah, hes fast. fast singles, some of the fastest no doubt! but u throw all of these bad ass metal drummers..with their speed and endurance..and then u put virgil next to them..and they might as well be non-existant!

and although tim waterson is the fastest, that's all he is, fast! nothing else! ive never heard him on set but id assume he sux because ive heard him say that speed is all he is!

virgil..take the crown..stand up with ur septer on a mountain and claim ur domain!:)

alencore
12-31-2004, 12:02 PM
Please never comparte a MAINSTREAM "MTV" drummer to Mr. Donati. The mainstream has ruined the mind of millions. ITS A HUGE MUSIC CONSPIRACY!!!!!! Its up to ALL OF US NOW to expand our thoughts and creativty beyond 120 bpm, 4/4 MAINSTREAM BULL****!!!! There is nothing wrong with 4/4 but when you limit yourself to that there you are stuck. Cant expand and its all you become. SLIPKNOT IS ALL SHOW. THEY ACT "CRAZY" AND"SIC" BUT THATS ALL A TOOL FOR HOW CHEEZY THERE MUSIC REALLY IS. "POP ROCK"AT ITS FINEST!!!!! SHANATIGANS I TELL YA!! SHANATIGANS!!!!!!! RythmTroll here, signing out. JOEY IS "FAST" BUT WHATEVER! HOW BOUT ENDURANCE? YEAH I THOUGHT SO.


wow! is that good old troll or what? i totally agree on that man! f u c k MTV and top 40 radios LOL! lets play some bebop jazz for a change but with a fast shuffle db underneath, hehe.

frank
01-01-2005, 06:17 AM
Mike Portnoy played with the OTV band?!?!

Is this really true?!? I'd love to hear or see that some time! I don't think Mike could play stuff half as cool as Virg did with them.. But interesting nonetheless!

D. Slam
01-06-2005, 01:35 AM
If I were stranded on a desert Island and could have only one other drummer there with me, it would probably be Virgil... It is literally jaw dropping to watch him play all by himself. Now if I could choose a drummer with a band, the drummer would probably change (probably Billy Cobham) because of the range of diversity.

But no other drummer all by him or herself moves me like watching and listening to Virgil. When you hear of people talking about seeing Virgil and shaking their heads, that's not just an expression. You can literally take those statments to the bank.

D.

Kinetic drummer
01-06-2005, 02:36 AM
Let Me Tell Ya Something.
First.
As You Know... A Funk Drummer Will Never Play The Same As A Death Metal Drummer... Its About Genre.
Joey Is Cool For A Metal Band Like Slipknot... He Plays What He Needs To Play. He Plays With His Heart. I Have Seen Him.
Yes.. Joey Plays Pornoyish Chops All The Time.. Kinda Boring..
But.. Technically... Virgil Is God. God. Its Very Stupid To Make That Comparison.

Technically Speaking...lang Is Not As Good As He Is. Even Minnemann

frank
01-06-2005, 03:55 AM
What's Up With The CaPiTalS? ;)

cjcdrums
01-07-2005, 11:08 AM
GoOd OnE!i!i!

PercDudeJR
01-07-2005, 03:44 PM
Yeah, Slipknot is to metal what Good Charlotte is to the Ramones.
Well said man! :D

PercDudeJR
01-07-2005, 03:52 PM
Please never comparte a MAINSTREAM "MTV" drummer to Mr. Donati. The mainstream has ruined the mind of millions. ITS A HUGE MUSIC CONSPIRACY!!!!!! Its up to ALL OF US NOW to expand our thoughts and creativty beyond 120 bpm, 4/4 MAINSTREAM BULL****!!!! There is nothing wrong with 4/4 but when you limit yourself to that there you are stuck. Cant expand and its all you become. SLIPKNOT IS ALL SHOW. THEY ACT "CRAZY" AND"SIC" BUT THATS ALL A TOOL FOR HOW CHEEZY THERE MUSIC REALLY IS. "POP ROCK"AT ITS FINEST!!!!! SHANATIGANS I TELL YA!! SHANATIGANS!!!!!!! RythmTroll here, signing out. JOEY IS "FAST" BUT WHATEVER! HOW BOUT ENDURANCE? YEAH I THOUGHT SO.
We should just stop comparing drummers..

IronCobraMan
01-07-2005, 06:36 PM
even in terms of single foot speed donati kills jordison.... jordison fukin blows.... wat an insult to even make this thread

cjcdrums
01-07-2005, 07:21 PM
I must admit I don't know much about metal drummers... IronCobraMan, or whoever DOES know, can you tell me which metal drummers have the best feet? Maybe I'm just a noob, but I personally thought Joey Jordison was very fast.

IronCobraMan
01-07-2005, 11:18 PM
lol..... ok .... heres my list....

1.Derek Roddy (Nile, Hate Eternal etc...)
2.Pete sandoval(Morbid Angel)
3.Tim Yeung (Hate Eternal, aurora borealis)

id say are the top speed drummers in the metal business....

but then again....tons of other drummers can do wat they do... for instance.... myself....and drumblast.... speed is speed... once u attein it...its time to move on...

stefan_vortex
01-10-2005, 01:34 PM
Come on guys, the slipknot boy will definitely win- he'll simply vomit over Virgil and make him die myserably!!!!!!

Drumblast
01-10-2005, 10:53 PM
lol..... ok .... heres my list....

1.Derek Roddy (Nile, Hate Eternal etc...)
2.Pete sandoval(Morbid Angel)
3.Tim Yeung (Hate Eternal, aurora borealis)

id say are the top speed drummers in the metal business....

but then again....tons of other drummers can do wat they do... for instance.... myself....and drumblast.... speed is speed... once u attein it...its time to move on...

Hey IC,

Have you heard David Haley with Psycroptic? He means business.
I'll add Flo to the list, and Tony Lareano. And the guy from Goratory.
Oh, and John Longstreth, how can we not forget Origin I.I.I.---that CD really blew my mind when it came out. :D

frank
01-10-2005, 11:20 PM
What about Nicholas Barker? Saw him live with Dimmu Borgir.. (idiot music.. don't like it, was there with some friends who love them...). His legs moved so fast it was rediculous.. especially for somebody that fat! :P

Thunderboom
01-11-2005, 07:05 AM
Alright, I like Joey but Virgil would kick him to the curb. Honestly.

Helmet
01-11-2005, 07:23 AM
Hoglan.

All the way.

Here he's fat like Barker.. c'mon peeps, let's all get fat!

Praise the lard!!!

dave wilkinson
02-04-2005, 09:31 AM
well i must admit on this one virgil donati is something else when it comes to double bass drumwork, that is for definate, but ive realised that different drummers offer a different quality of bass drum work. yeah i understand that all drummers have a piece to offer in their playing, but as i stated before, my personal favourite doublle bass drummer as in sound, what you hear and how he uses speed and dynamics with his feet to solo freely with his hands is dom famularo, still to this day, i mean you dont see him attempting to play monster paradiddles with his feet etc or rudimental expressions that many other drummers do, even though with his concept that each and every limb interacts freely i am positive he can do it, but the way his own sound comes across, and how spaced out his playing is with the extremely fast singles changing in dynamic level with feet and hands, to me sounds absolutely fantastic.
mike portnoy and joey jordison etc, they all have ability, and with dream theater etc sound fantastic playing in a group, but when it comes to solo expression i rarely find a lot that you know sort of expresses something to my ears from drumset playing. but they are great players without any doubt no matter which concept you give or take away from their playing, its all from the inside.

skinwalker
02-04-2005, 11:31 AM
since when is music about competition?,but if you are gonna have a competition on speed,what the **** is joey doing in it? dave lombardo would actually be a good "speed" competetive.and **** portnoy,yes he's a good drummer but he's not what ppl have him cracked up to be,he just has a ****load of drums to hit,not like he's doing anything special with them. :o

cjcdrums
02-04-2005, 12:23 PM
Let me take this time to say, UN-**** Portnoy, he is a good drummer and a great inflence for many novice drummers to have. He really shows the beginner what to do with double-bass. And he never claims to be very good, so this whole disdain for him just because he's in a high-profile "musician's" band really is unfounded. Same for Joey. Regardless of faster drummers out there, he's still rediculously fast to someone new to the genre. And honestly, Lombardo is just as overrated. You want fast, look at Mike Mangini. 'Nuff said.

IronCobraMan
02-04-2005, 12:48 PM
derek roddy... pete sandoval.... NUFF SAID :D

vdreignsuponus1
02-04-2005, 02:23 PM
roddy's the man with the plan when it comes to speed!:D

not a death metal fan, but his name isn't mentioned enough!

pcannon
02-04-2005, 04:41 PM
Joey honestly sucks. I mean...very little talent. A monkey can learn to be fast. For kicks I downloaded a drum solo by him and it's the sloppiest sounding thing I've ever heard.
AMEN BROTHER!!!! For all the nay sayers go to www.drummerworld.com and check out the lameo slopfest solo he does while going upside down, besides being a tommy lee rip off ( another slopfest master ) didn't Buddy Rich ( THE REAL DEAL )do this in like 1950? Now we know why he wears the mask!

Xen-
02-04-2005, 05:14 PM
When I hear Derek Roddy play - or any speed metal drummer, for that matter - I feel sick. :(

Bnobatera
02-04-2005, 06:53 PM
ae galera sou do brasil, tenhu mtas novidades !!!!

DavidPartay
02-04-2005, 09:10 PM
Mike Portnoy is a great drummer and his drumming is FUN. You'll never find a drummer who does what he does. No, he's not on the same level as Donati or Weckl, but neither am I for that matter. I love playing along to songs like Fatal Tragedy and Beyond This Life because his style allows me to build on my own as well as giving me at least some small challenges to accomplish. I feel I'm getting closer to his level, but I know I still have a lot to learn.

superfeet
02-05-2005, 10:12 AM
Tommy Aldridge anyone????

cjcdrums
02-05-2005, 06:32 PM
How 'bout Tommy Vercetti?

renshaimaster
02-05-2005, 10:38 PM
Joey honestly sucks. I mean...very little talent. A monkey can learn to be fast. For kicks I downloaded a drum solo by him and it's the sloppiest sounding thing I've ever heard.
Holy crap, I downloaded the SAME solo. Either that or he is just abysmal all the time. I downloaded the one where he is on the platform that turns downward, and it is the ABSOLUTE SLOPPIEST solo ever. I could teach my dog to play better than that in 4 days tops. Virgil would make Jordison cry, and continue to consume his soul.

C.J.
02-06-2005, 02:07 AM
You know if you wanna talk about
double bass speedkings, let's just
put down Tim Waterson.

This is the best example to proove
that speed means nothing...

Look at virg or other Lang, G. Collins,
they are far form the fastest. But they
rule !

Sorry, gotta go and spank myself...

vdreignsuponus1
02-06-2005, 09:37 AM
yeah, tim waterson is the fastest! too bad that's really all he is..

then uve got ppl like donati, lang, and collins showing u the technical side of speed and endurance on double bass..which impresses me far more!:)

IronCobraMan
02-06-2005, 10:19 AM
always hatin... u know how hard tim waterson worked to get to that level?

everyone does their own thing...and thats that... no one drummer is better than the other .... we choose wat we wanna play and we stick with it.... so dont hate

C.J.
02-06-2005, 01:08 PM
I don't hate anybody, I just think that
that kind' of approach is useless...

Sure Tim fir example decided to di his
thing, but where is the music ?

vdreignsuponus1
02-06-2005, 01:40 PM
im not "hatin'" dont wry! i know tim is the fastest and i know im never gonna be that fast! im sure he worked his ass off to get that fast! yet, that's not what im striving for..

i really look at tim as more of an athlete to the drum set..

cjcdrums
02-06-2005, 08:52 PM
I'm sure Tim has fantastic control over his feet at lower speeds, like Lang or Donati. Even if he can't play "drums" fer ****e he must still have rediculous foot control after that much practice!

IronCobraMan
02-07-2005, 02:53 AM
for instance..... its like telling the strongest man in the world... wheres the sportsman ship.... has nothing to do with sports... just as speed contests have nothing to do with drumming.... its a test of breaking human limitations... and i find that impressive none the less.....


and plus.... he has astonishing red hair..... enuf to make carrot top jealous....

billy boy
02-07-2005, 05:59 AM
Hey guys
Just saw Pat Torpey from Mr Big in a Sydney clinic the other night, supprisingly had some of the fastest double strokes I have heard 32notes around 140bpm held for at least 2 min while soloing over the top.

I had no idea he had those kind of foot chops.
ANOTHER GUY WITH AMAZINGLY FAST FEET IS PETE DRUMMOND FROM AUSTRALIA BOTH SINGLE & DOUBLE STROKES AROUND THE SAME SPEED.
cheers!!

vdreignsuponus1
02-07-2005, 09:10 AM
i love pat's drumming on mr. big's bump ahead! fantastic drummer!:)

C.J.
02-07-2005, 11:00 AM
It sucks that Paul Gilbert left Mr. Big,
him and Sheehan were killers !

johngregson
02-07-2005, 12:45 PM
While I prefer Paul Gilbert, Ritchie Kotzen's pretty damn amazing as well!
Oh, and Pat is a phenomonal drummer. I was just listening to some Mr. Big stuff this morning, and remembering just how great they were [sighs wistfully, gazes into middle distance]...
John.

IronCobraMan
02-08-2005, 01:10 AM
ah 280bpm doubles for 2 minutes? id doubt that.... the only person who could do that is waterson..

billy boy
02-08-2005, 01:43 AM
Richie kotzen has a voice as amazing as his playing, check out his albums
1)Motherheads family reunion
2)Slow
3)Change
4)Get up

Thats just 4 of his albums
website www.richiekotzen.com

ps Ironcobraman, maybe pat was't quite that fast, but he was way up there.
Cheers!!

Drumcanman
02-16-2005, 03:13 PM
Hello fellow drummers.
This is Tim Waterson and I am here to set the record straight.
I am all about promoting drums and drumming and the reason I created the WFD fastest feet record was to promote a drum Society I was starting in Edmonton.
Virgil is my main inspiration for pushing the speed. I heard that he was practicing doubles at around 220 so I figured i would have to break the 250 mark before anyone would even know who I was.
Being from Edmonton and playing in top 40 bands does not get you any recognition in the drum community.
I wish I had as much time to practice as some of you think I do. LOL

Yes I have recorded CD's with original bands none of you have heard of and I have 2 instruction videos out so I hope I can play on a drumset.LOL!

I also have a sol drumcanman cd that has me performing on recycled materials and a few toy drums. I also do workshops in schools trying to get kids involved in music by showing them they can make music on stuff they have around the house.
You can hear sound clips in my interview at www.drums.com or got my www.drumcanman.com website and click on the Jukebox to hear Music from the Silverfeet and an angels voice CD demo. I play the guitar and bass also so don't expect Steve Vai.LOL!
Speed is only a means to an end but the faact that I can play at WFD speeds means that I can relax and Groove with the band at normal tempos.
I hope this clarifies things a bit.
God Bless!
Tim Waterson www.drumcanman.com

cjcdrums
02-16-2005, 03:16 PM
Holy ****! The actual TIM WATERSON! Sweet! Good to have ya here, dude!

cjcdrums
02-16-2005, 03:18 PM
Hey Tim, you've got the fastest feet in the world, any tips? {puppy dog eyes}

Kuzz
02-16-2005, 03:24 PM
wondert what would happen if you put virgil donati and joey jordison(slipknot) in a comp for fastest double pedals!!!??hey i think virgil would kick joeys ass because virgil can do doubles with mixed triplets at amazing speeds never heard of. he can convert doubles to paradidles at 190 beats per minute and do amazing things with hands an he has all kinds of techniques.

johngregson
02-16-2005, 03:29 PM
Speed is only a means to an end but the faact that I can play at WFD speeds means that I can relax and Groove with the band at normal tempos.


Good point, sir! An oft-neglected argument about the necessity of solid technique.
Plus 250+ bpm must be a killer party trick...
Best,
John.
P.S. If you need any guitar lessons, you know who to call... :D
[I promised myself I'd never use a smiley on a messageboard, but it was crying out for one, honest!]

cjcdrums
02-16-2005, 03:33 PM
Aww, man! He's offline. I was hoping to get some speed tips from the most qualified man on the planet. Oh well, back to groove playing. {Yawn}

johngregson
02-16-2005, 03:39 PM
And lo! There was a great flash of light, and Steve Gadd appeared before them.

cjcdrums
02-17-2005, 09:33 PM
I believe you must be looking for my "The Story GameŽ" thread, I'm sure you'll find it most amusing.

Especially my posts.

bevs_joey
03-15-2005, 05:15 AM
Joey Jordison is the man!!!! He would tear peices into virgil anyday!!And what is it with Nicholas Barker. Hes good and all but not that good!! Joey has loads of tallent. I mean hes not only the greatest dummer ever he also is the greatest guitarist!!
I mean Nicholas Barker has been drumming for 22 years and Joey for wat only about 15 years and joey puts him to shame!!

vdreignsuponus1
03-15-2005, 05:32 AM
what's this about..jordinson..tearing pieces..into..virgil? virgil donati? u must be talking some other virgil my friend! my eyes r confused!

C.J.
03-15-2005, 05:32 AM
Sorry if I seem rude but, you should do a reality check...

cjcdrums
03-15-2005, 11:22 AM
Joey Jordison is the man!!!! He would tear peices into virgil anyday!!And what is it with Nicholas Barker. Hes good and all but not that good!! Joey has loads of tallent. I mean hes not only the greatest dummer ever he also is the greatest guitarist!!
I mean Nicholas Barker has been drumming for 22 years and Joey for wat only about 15 years and joey puts him to shame!!

HA HA HA HA!!!

C.J.
03-15-2005, 11:38 AM
That's another way of seeing things...

cjcdrums
03-15-2005, 12:13 PM
WOW! I didn't even absorb all the ignorance in that post the first time I read it. Not only is Joey Jordison the best drummer in the history of the world (gag me with a spoon) but he's also the best GUITARIST in the history of the world too! Never mind these guys:

Rusty Cooley
Chris Impelletteri
Shawn Lane
Francesco Fareri
Yngwie Malmsteen
Michael Angelo
Steve Vai
Joe Satriani
Allen Holdsworth
Stanley Jordan
Paul Gilbert
Tony McAlpine
Frank Gambale
Eric Johnson
John Petrucci
George Bellas
Michael Romeo
Greg Howe
TJ Helmerich
Jason Becker
Mike Keneally
Steve Morse
Ben Weinman
Al Di Meola
Marcus Paus
Eddie Van Halen
John McLaughlin
Scott Henderson
Jeremy Barnes
Zack Wylde
Mattias "IA" Eklundh

Yeah, Joey spanks 'em all! Ya know what? Joey Jordison is LORD OF ALL INSTRUMENTS! He probably invented most of them too! Whew... man... that was good for me. What that good for you? :p

D.W.A.
03-15-2005, 12:59 PM
yet ....wears a mask.......acne problem?

C.J.
03-15-2005, 02:18 PM
LoL Cjc...

Helmet
03-15-2005, 02:26 PM
Gene Hoglan.

Nuff said.

vdreignsuponus1
03-15-2005, 04:23 PM
yeah, i mean, i dont wanna start saying that joey sucks because he certainly does not but ive been seeing A LOT of signs that he might be the most overrated in the drum scene today and IM POSITIVE NOW that that theory is very close if not complete to being true!

joey jordinson..*sigh*

u do not know of the gods who rest on our mt. olympus!

IronCobraMan
03-16-2005, 12:41 AM
derek roddy... tony laureano....nuf said

cjcdrums
03-16-2005, 12:57 AM
derek roddy... tony laureano....nuf said
Who is this Tony Laureano you speak of? :confused:

bevs_joey
03-16-2005, 04:41 AM
Joey jordison is the man!!!! he would take apart virgil anyday! Virgil would run home crying!!! Not only is Joey amazing on drums. he is amazing on guitar as well!!!!!! :cool:

bevs_joey
03-16-2005, 04:53 AM
How can u call Joey overrated??Virgil is overrated!! I think you lot need a reality check if you dont think Joey is awesome!!! :mad: Just cause he hasnt been playin like 50 years like old man virgil here!Hes better than virgil and hes been playin a quarter of the time!! :D

vdreignsuponus1
03-16-2005, 05:31 AM
man, i can only pray that is just another hardcore sarcasm poster. dont want it to be, but id rather it be that..*sigh*

have u seen virgil in anything more than pictures? have u never even seen his arms in motion? i wouldnt call mr. donati overrated really. he's pretty well known but majority of the drumming scene does look at him the way us board members do!

perhaps u should pay for a premium membership and realize what ur saying is very..impossible..

C.J.
03-16-2005, 07:49 AM
Okay dude, but just one thing, if Virgil is so lame to your blind eyes why did you come over here ?

This is no Joey Jordison official messagebord.

Peace.

cjcdrums
03-16-2005, 09:16 AM
How can u call Joey overrated??Virgil is overrated!! I think you lot need a reality check if you dont think Joey is awesome!!! :mad: Just cause he hasnt been playin like 50 years like old man virgil here!Hes better than virgil and hes been playin a quarter of the time!! :Dlol... I think someone's confused...

Dude, why are you here? Have you even watched the videos on the video page? I don't think ya have. Allow me.... http://www.virgildonati.com/media_videos.php

I DARE you to watch those videos... maybe that'll help!

C.J.
03-16-2005, 01:11 PM
Honestly I can't understand how can someone can act like that... It's just as if I went over to Mangini's forum and said he sucks and that Lars could kick his backside anyday.

I just don't get it.

Oh and by the way Joey lover, how come yer birthday is in 1996 and that you are 18 years old ? Sorry that just cought me when I read your profile.

I just don't get it (bis)

cjcdrums
03-16-2005, 01:45 PM
WTF? It says in this guy's profile that he was born in 1996, and right under that he states that he's "18 and a boy"...

I think that clears things right up! Now we are getting the bigger picture.

johngregson
03-16-2005, 01:58 PM
It could be a typo for 1986?

C.J.
03-16-2005, 02:20 PM
Yes it could, the fact is we are trying to fugure out his true age...

johngregson
03-16-2005, 02:27 PM
I'm just amused by one of his 'Dislikes' in his Bio: He hates "Undedicated Musicians".
Ha! Wrong messageboard for that one!

Helmet
03-16-2005, 02:45 PM
I still love Hoglan.

And Derek Roddy - remember when I said he wasn't that good.

I eat my words. And my hat. I GOT THE WRONG FOOCKING DRUMMER I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THE NOB OUT OF... A CRAP UK BM BAND!

Please insult me at will.

And which tosser said Nick Barker was crap again?

cjcdrums
03-16-2005, 02:55 PM
What? You don't seem to make much sense to me these days, man.

IronCobraMan
03-17-2005, 02:05 AM
joey jordison cant do 0.00005 % of what virgil can do with one limb...on a bad day...with the flu...on an empty stomach...and that one limb is sprained...

joey jordison first of all sucks ..... so dont even put his name with virgils in the same sentence...as i just did :P ..

and please educate urself.... ur like one of those...lombardo is the best drummer in the world kids....u know nothing...ull be nothing...and i honestly wanna punch u in the teeth for saying stupid **** like that...

frank
03-17-2005, 04:01 AM
And which tosser said Nick Barker was crap again?

Hmm.. on page 3, I mention him being rediculously fast, for such a fat guy.. and I said that dimmu borgir makes crappy music or sth... that doesn't mean barker sucks though. Good drummer, just not my cup of tea.

But he's the living proof that eating at McDonalds 6 times a day makes you a fast drummer, right? ;)

bevs_joey
03-21-2005, 08:48 AM
WTF? It says in this guy's profile that he was born in 1996, and right under that he states that he's "18 and a boy"...

I think that clears things right up! Now we are getting the bigger picture.
its meant to say 1986. lol. must have been rushing whule typing sorry! :rolleyes:

bevs_joey
03-21-2005, 08:54 AM
I still love Hoglan.

And Derek Roddy - remember when I said he wasn't that good.

I eat my words. And my hat. I GOT THE WRONG FOOCKING DRUMMER I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THE NOB OUT OF... A CRAP UK BM BAND!

Please insult me at will.

And which tosser said Nick Barker was crap again?

i didnt say nick barker was crap. i mearley pointed out that he is not as good as everyone makes him out to be! Joey is the man! Virgil is good but not on the same scale as joey. You got to take into consideration that joey is like a quarter of virgils age and playin a quarter of the time. (but still he kicks his ass!)..also does Marco Minnemann!!hehe. :p

bevs_joey
03-21-2005, 09:26 AM
[QUOTE=
and please educate urself.... ur like one of those...lombardo is the best drummer in the world kids....u know nothing...ull be nothing...and i honestly wanna punch u in the teeth for saying stupid **** like that...[/QUOTE]

lombardo is pants!! any of you tried playing eeore by slipknot? hahaha thats wat you call endurance!!!! :cool:

vdreignsuponus1
03-21-2005, 10:17 AM
woah, didnt think we'd see u again!

and im not about to hate on lombardo because he was my biggest influence in the beginning. but i later matured out of slayer and slipknot and then came the world of EXTREME VIRGILNESS! which helped me discover a lot of the other great talents amoung the drumming world!

C.J.
03-21-2005, 01:20 PM
I'm gona go crazy with your crap about Joey....

frank
03-21-2005, 01:25 PM
Joey is gay. Shut up. :cool:

bevs_joey
03-21-2005, 01:56 PM
Joey is gay. Shut up. :cool:
JOEY IS NOT GAY!!! :mad:

C.J.
03-21-2005, 01:58 PM
Oh he's probably fetishist or SM then, you think he has fun with the mask and the leather at home ? jkjkjkjkjk

bevs_joey
03-21-2005, 02:06 PM
Oh he's probably fetishist or SM then, you think he has fun with the mask and the leather at home ? jkjkjkjkjk

grow up. :mad: this is a drummers message board not somewhere to teel us about ur sexual fanticies about leather and masks!

C.J.
03-21-2005, 02:08 PM
Okay you win he's just gay.

cjcdrums
03-21-2005, 02:13 PM
i didnt say nick barker was crap. i mearley pointed out that he is not as good as everyone makes him out to be! Joey is the man! Virgil is good but not on the same scale as joey. You got to take into consideration that joey is like a quarter of virgils age and playin a quarter of the time. (but still he kicks his ass!)..also does Marco Minnemann!!hehe. :p
Okay, so now you're saying Joey is 11.75 years old and kicks the ass of a guy who can play like this:
http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/highlights/highlights-mtlfest_111304_01.wmv (http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/highlights/highlights-mtlfest_111304_01.wmv)

and this:
http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/g3solo.wmv (http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/g3solo.wmv)

Right.

C.J.
03-21-2005, 02:17 PM
Okay now If Bevboy here still thinks that Joey smoke Virgil, then he is a lost case...

bevs_joey
03-21-2005, 03:24 PM
Okay, so now you're saying Joey is 11.75 years old and kicks the ass of a guy who can play like this:
http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/highlights/highlights-mtlfest_111304_01.wmv (http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/highlights/highlights-mtlfest_111304_01.wmv)

and this:
http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/g3solo.wmv (http://www.virgildonati.com/videos/g3solo.wmv)

Right.
not litrally a quarter. will you all stop showing me these vids ive seen em all before!! :)

frank
03-21-2005, 03:52 PM
LMAO @ C.J. :D:D

I think this is quite a useless discussion. If bevs can't open his mind to virgil's greatness and strongly believes that Joey is THE best drummer EVER, let him.. :|

guten666
03-21-2005, 04:41 PM
Why you guys always hating on joey, he's fast as a mofo. He would beat virgil in speed on double bass, but not by much, Virgil would win if u were judging the control and speed, but on just speed joey would win, If u disagree then u are wrong and need to go suck on a popsicle

frank
03-21-2005, 07:28 PM
Dude, what you're saying is totally contradictive!


"Virgil would win if u were judging the control and speed"

VERSUS

"He would beat virgil in speed on double bass"
AND
"but on just speed joey would win" ..

Some people.. *sigh*..

Seriously, have you ever seen/heard Virgil's singles on the bassdrum? And have you ever met anyone who has better endurance than Virgil!?

rastawes
03-21-2005, 09:33 PM
this is old news but speed is just one facet of drums...

play a million miles an hour if you want, if that gets u off. but i'll take a multitalented guy any day over someone who excells at only one thing...

i'd much rather listen SpUg or whatever his name is over Joey boy...at least he's diverse in that metal setting?

i'm wes by the way it's good to be back...

bevs_joey
03-22-2005, 04:28 AM
Dude, what you're saying is totally contradictive!


"Virgil would win if u were judging the control and speed"

VERSUS

"He would beat virgil in speed on double bass"
AND
"but on just speed joey would win" ..

Some people.. *sigh*..

Seriously, have you ever seen/heard Virgil's singles on the bassdrum? And have you ever met anyone who has better endurance than Virgil!?

yep joey has alot more endurance than Virgil. that im sure of!

bevs_joey
03-22-2005, 04:32 AM
this is old news but speed is just one facet of drums...

play a million miles an hour if you want, if that gets u off. but i'll take a multitalented guy any day over someone who excells at only one thing...

i'd much rather listen SpUg or whatever his name is over Joey boy...at least he's diverse in that metal setting?

i'm wes by the way it's good to be back...

I agree spUg is a very good metal drummer but he has no speed on his double bass (and i believe this thread is named "double bass drum speed." SpUg is more of a techincal drummer when you compare him to someone like Joey. IM a big MuDvAyNe fan and i dont think ive heared spUg go over maybe 90 bpm. :p

dubman
03-22-2005, 08:40 AM
Yes Joey is fast, but is not creative, all he can do is go really fast on a double bass pedal, there is more to double bass than just that, rudimental patterns using double bass is what I am aiming for, just single strokes on a double bass might be impressive but everyone tries to aim for that, how about trying to do something creative with your feet. Even though the thread is called "Double Bass Speed Kings", singles does not make you a double bass speed king, far from it, however playing paraddidles (and ofcourse all other rudiments, rhythms) at crazy speeds I would say is making yourself unique drummer and if you can do this at amazing speeds, this is the double bass speed king a creative drummer would try and aim at.

C.J.
03-22-2005, 11:53 AM
You know, we had this thread about what we'd give to aliens as precious info on drums. I say Give 'em Joey Jordison and Bevs in a trunk ;)

On a more serious note, I have to admit that I'm going crazy with this nonesense about Joey Jordison Vs Virg.

Bevs, please stop saying such such things about Joey. We got your point : you think his the best and all, so be it. But Stop this Joey stuff please !

There is nothing wrong about him being your favorite drummer, and therfore prefering him over Virg. I can respect that. But saying totally false facts about Joey like him "smoking" Virg is just wrong dude.

I really get frustrated reading you, the way you insist on all this...

Can't we just move on now ?

Peace, beer and pizza,
Me.

vdreignsuponus1
03-22-2005, 11:57 AM
yep joey has alot more endurance than Virgil. that im sure of!

that phrase ended it..

idk what to do anymore..

Drumblast
03-22-2005, 12:26 PM
Joey is a great drummer from what I've heard on his recordings. Virgil is beyond great on his recordings. While Joey plays excellent parts with Slipknot, Virgil has gone beyond the normal approach to drumming, incorporating multilple rhythms, and general sickness that Joey has not come close to, along with every other professional drummer in the world(give or take a few).

cjcdrums
03-22-2005, 02:01 PM
Joey is a great drummer from what I've heard on his recordings. Virgil is beyond great on his recordings. While Joey plays excellent parts with Slipknot, Virgil has gone beyond the normal approach to drumming, incorporating multilple rhythms, and general sickness that Joey has not come close to, along with every other professional drummer in the world(give or take a few).
I concur 100%.

C.J.
03-22-2005, 02:22 PM
Lets take that as a conclusion to this Joey and Virgil rubbish huh ?

(yes that means you stop doing propaganda about Joey's "virtuosoness" Mr. Bevstou dude).

vdreignsuponus1
03-22-2005, 02:57 PM
i personally get a smile on my face whenever i see that the last post was made by bevs joey in certain threads.:p it's too funny!

but yeah, i think bevs joey is over-looking the facts a bit..

..a bit?

IronCobraMan
03-23-2005, 01:30 AM
JOEY JORDISON IS NOT GOOD....within his genre he's nothing...so within other genres he doesnt even exist...his name should not even be mentioned on this forum...its an insult to the V man....

jus for example....derek roddy would leave joey cryin back to mommy....and virgil would absolutly murder roddy.... u understand wat im saying.....

its like putting lombardo in these categories....not happening.... their good mid-speed metal drummers......nothing to wag ur tail about....

bevs_joey
03-23-2005, 03:59 AM
he will murder you!!

C.J.
03-23-2005, 07:12 AM
Why what is he gonna do ? Stab ICM with his Ahead alloy sticks ?

vdreignsuponus1
03-23-2005, 08:57 AM
set up his pedals near ICM's face while he's sleeping and go as fast as he can!

ICM doesn't even wake up because IT'S NOT FAST ENOUGH! HAHAHA!

C.J.
03-23-2005, 12:57 PM
Yo Richie !

Since I haven't seen you on AIM lately I just wanted to know if you managed to sort out you snare problem ?

Hope your enjoying yer spring break,
Chris.

P.S. Yep totally double bass speed kings unrelated.

vdreignsuponus1
03-23-2005, 02:46 PM
yeah chris, thanks a bunch! the problem was that both of my heads were uneven and i still had to find my specific pitch. it's doing well now and thanks again! im usually on all that time except sometimes i might have an away message up, but do feel free to leave me a message!:)

C.J.
03-23-2005, 03:03 PM
Nice to know you fixed the promblem ! And for AIM, okay I'll think about leaving you notes.

Peace,
The English-Philepeno-French dude.

IronCobraMan
03-24-2005, 10:00 AM
ive never seen joey do anything over 210.... and in this modern age 210 is nothing....

JOEY is crap

Xen-
03-24-2005, 11:06 AM
By this logic, speed is everything?

cjcdrums
03-24-2005, 10:40 PM
By this logic, speed is everything?
You're right, he probably thinks all there is to drumming is speed. I'm sure he couldn't identify a halftime shuffle if it bit him in the ass, and he's probably never heard of this new-fangled "musicality" buzzword that everyone tosses around these days. And by posting what you've just posted, you will knock him into a massive reality check, and he'll be revolutionized, completely abondoning his interest in speed and finding himself totally immersed into the world of Steve Gadd and Bernard Purdie, like you, right? :rolleyes:

This is a double-bass SPEED kings thread, Xen. Let's stay on topic.

IronCobraMan
03-25-2005, 01:25 AM
shuffle? thats when u mix cards right?

:D

Milo Porto
03-25-2005, 01:33 AM
my god..this post is still going...LOL!! im proud of meself..!! =-P its the longest going post i think..!! LOL HAHAHMUAAHAHAHAH!! =-)

Milo Porto
03-25-2005, 01:37 AM
Hello fellow drummers.
This is Tim Waterson and I am here to set the record straight.
I am all about promoting drums and drumming and the reason I created the WFD fastest feet record was to promote a drum Society I was starting in Edmonton.
Virgil is my main inspiration for pushing the speed. I heard that he was practicing doubles at around 220 so I figured i would have to break the 250 mark before anyone would even know who I was.
Being from Edmonton and playing in top 40 bands does not get you any recognition in the drum community.
I wish I had as much time to practice as some of you think I do. LOL

Yes I have recorded CD's with original bands none of you have heard of and I have 2 instruction videos out so I hope I can play on a drumset.LOL!

I also have a sol drumcanman cd that has me performing on recycled materials and a few toy drums. I also do workshops in schools trying to get kids involved in music by showing them they can make music on stuff they have around the house.
You can hear sound clips in my interview at www.drums.com or got my www.drumcanman.com website and click on the Jukebox to hear Music from the Silverfeet and an angels voice CD demo. I play the guitar and bass also so don't expect Steve Vai.LOL!
Speed is only a means to an end but the faact that I can play at WFD speeds means that I can relax and Groove with the band at normal tempos.
I hope this clarifies things a bit.
God Bless!
Tim Waterson www.drumcanman.com

you are tim..!!! my god..pleased to meet ya.. I 've been seeing your videos..on WFD competions..!! good **** man!! any tips..?
:D \m/

IronCobraMan
03-25-2005, 02:40 AM
heres some of last weeks 240 db footage i try to hold it for a solid 30 secs...

i know im gonna questions from cjc...so .... notice my foot doesnt move alot at these speeds.... im letting the pedal do the work...and my ankles control the board... minimal movement and strain = greater speed

and as tim said...yes its very hard to keep anything over 230 even and uniform.....

http://rapidshare.de/files/9964183/240_run.wmv.html

u wanna talk about db speed kings....im the up and comer mofos!

bevs_joey
03-25-2005, 04:49 AM
Why what is he gonna do ? Stab ICM with his Ahead alloy sticks ?
Ahead are the worlds most advanced drumsticks! :p

bevs_joey
03-25-2005, 04:50 AM
set up his pedals near ICM's face while he's sleeping and go as fast as he can!

ICM doesn't even wake up because IT'S NOT FAST ENOUGH! HAHAHA!

He wouldnt wake up because he would be knocked out!! :p :D

C.J.
03-25-2005, 07:30 AM
Oh no, don't tell me your the kind of dude who uses Ahead jut because Joey does, or/and that you play on Pearl because Joey does...

And by the way, Ahead sticks a far for being the most advanced in my opinion. They are "advanced" because of the materiel (and the damn price !) used to craft the sticks. Otherwise, they're not worth wooden sticks.

They can brake quite easily actually, and the grip area gets discusting and rusts after using the them for a long time. At the best, you get this sort of sandy feel which is totally uncomfortable.

Finally, they are too expensive fot what they are worth.

My opinion on that.

vdreignsuponus1
03-25-2005, 09:42 AM
i HATE ahead sticks! by the way chris, that "5 year kid" i was talking about totally uses joey jordinson signature. and as far as the stick goes, i wouldnt really say that it's more for advanced players. i think it probably takes a while to get used to to get nice control but, then again, larsy uses them!

heh..

MaltBuddow3
03-25-2005, 09:56 AM
lars ulrich

D.W.A.
03-25-2005, 10:06 AM
why is it, everytime you see someone doing ''2400000 BPM'' or whatever, its always on some axis pedals........do they have some sort of 1 cycle engine that starts after 180 bpm or something? :rolleyes:

IronCobraMan
03-25-2005, 08:02 PM
speed isnt in the pedal..its in the person.... i can go plenty fast on my heavy ass iron cobras....

http://rapidshare.de/files/9964183/240_run.wmv.html

if i were to switch to axis , id get an easy 10-15 bpm raise....but nothing more.... u need the muscles to play those speeds....without them...doesnt matter what pedal ur using...u simply cant do it

D.W.A.
03-26-2005, 08:04 AM
thought thats what you were using dude................my mistake

Xen-
03-26-2005, 09:23 AM
totally immersed into the world of Steve Gadd and Bernard Purdie, like you, right?
Virgil, maybe?

DD_Timekeeper
03-26-2005, 02:39 PM
Hey IronCobraMan, can't download your video... can you please check the link? Thanks! :)

IronCobraMan
03-26-2005, 03:14 PM
yea the link works.... when the page loads up...u gotta scroll down to the bottom....then another page will appear and u gotta scroll down again...it says u gotta wait 60 seconds for download to begin...then ull see a download button come up

http://rapidshare.de/files/9964183/240_run.wmv.html

dont forget to scroll down!

DD_Timekeeper
03-26-2005, 03:49 PM
Right.... thanks!

DrummerKid
03-28-2005, 11:10 AM
It's not all about speed, it's just about playing goooooooood

vdreignsuponus1
03-28-2005, 07:16 PM
yes, all of that has been debated! and welcome DrummerKid!:)

DD_Timekeeper
03-29-2005, 02:12 AM
I would like to share a thought with you: first of all, maximum respect to all of you who spend their time reaching every time higher speed... while I'm writing this, my double bass drum speed actually is 180 bpm singles and 160 doubles, nothing especial... Maybe I'm wrong, but reading along all this threads, I don't see anyone who's paying enough attention to SPEED joined with POWER (I underline, this is a PERSONAL opinion!). I think that (triggers apart) one thing is SPEED, another thing is an USEFUL SPEED, which I mean HIGH SPEED at GOOD VOLUME. For example Virgil The Great ;) His doubles, sometimes, are a little bit (a very little bit!) slower than other people's one... but if we also consider POWER in execution, there's no one I know who compares to him! I'd like to know your opinion... Greetings to all! (and, as always, sorry for my english!!)

Drumblast
03-29-2005, 06:46 AM
I would like to share a thought with you: first of all, maximum respect to all of you who spend their time reaching every time higher speed... while I'm writing this, my double bass drum speed actually is 180 bpm singles and 160 doubles, nothing especial... Maybe I'm wrong, but reading along all this threads, I don't see anyone who's paying enough attention to SPEED joined with POWER (I underline, this is a PERSONAL opinion!). I think that (triggers apart) one thing is SPEED, another thing is an USEFUL SPEED, which I mean HIGH SPEED at GOOD VOLUME. For example Virgil The Great ;) His doubles, sometimes, are a little bit (a very little bit!) slower than other people's one... but if we also consider POWER in execution, there's no one I know who compares to him! I'd like to know your opinion... Greetings to all! (and, as always, sorry for my english!!)

It's a matter of physics. Mike Mangini, who is the fastest drummer in the world, told me the reason he is the fastest is because he plays close to the head of the drum. The amount of energy spent on both power and speed is a tug of war.

As far as playing death metal..
If you want to destroy your legs, practice or play a show at 240bpm at FFF for 30 minutes. Then plan on it still sounding bad because of the technical/physical limitations of microphones. The reason for triggering is it helps with endurance as well as the sound produced. For this style of music, competing with guitars is tough for an acoustically miked up bass drum.
Triggers make it USEFUL speed

For any other style of music, it's always nice to play acoustically, play loud etc... But if you need a different bass drum sound, change the head, muffling, beater, trigger it or use an electronic pad, or sound replace it.
But how many other styles of music outside metal have major doublebass in them?

I find that being against triggers etc... is a macho thing. Kinda like single foot blasting. You will find there is no better way to do anything if you are not hurting yourself.

I'm all for playing loud on the kicks, that is how they sound good in rock and Roll. But in fast metal, you have to compromise the power for speed.

DD_Timekeeper
03-29-2005, 08:03 AM
(still laughin' for the 'macho thing' :) ) Drumblast, I'm NOT againt triggers!!
Well, let me explain: I agree with you!! Mine is just a proposal to improve someway our communication. Talking about speed, let's say also at which speed do you play full-power, and at which speed power decreases...
don't you think that the challenge is more complete, if exposed with the 'power' parameter?

Funkifized
03-29-2005, 08:24 AM
I actually wasn't going to post anything in this board... there seems to be a lot of dissing whenever topics are discussed. However, on the subject of triggers... if you're talking about using triggers and having the beater of the bass drum being like 1/2 an inch from the head, then that freakin' blows. That's not how drumming works. But to me, triggers should be used in a much more musical way other than "cheating" on fast bass drum work. Has ANYBODY here attended an Akira Jimbo concert or clinic? My latest experience was a performance by HidaJimbo, in which Akira was playing with a Taiko drummer. Talk about extreme musicality! He was playing Stairway to Heaven, the Mission Impossible theme and Bridge Under Troubled Water (yes the whole thing!), using drum triggers attached under the rims of the drums. He was playing the melody, harmony, the bass line and the groove all at the same time.

That, to me, is what triggers should be used for. Period.

johngregson
03-29-2005, 10:02 AM
Akira Jimbo rocks!

Drumblast
03-29-2005, 01:23 PM
(still laughin' for the 'macho thing' :) ) Drumblast, I'm NOT againt triggers!!
Well, let me explain: I agree with you!! Mine is just a proposal to improve someway our communication. Talking about speed, let's say also at which speed do you play full-power, and at which speed power decreases...
don't you think that the challenge is more complete, if exposed with the 'power' parameter?

LOL!!!

I'm glad you understand.

As far as the 1/2 inch off the bass drum comment---that's a waste. If anyone is doing that, they might as well get an electronic kit, raise the gain, and play with pencils. :D

IronCobraMan
03-30-2005, 01:29 AM
power comes thru control..and control comes thru years of practice....when i get up to 250 bpm.... i have very little power....but i know this will change with more practice...by legs will get used to this tempo and be able to add more juice to it....its just a matter of training urself... for example...a few months back when i was reaching 230 , i also had hardly any power....but now my 230 singles are ripping... u increase slowly but sherley temple

DD_Timekeeper
03-30-2005, 04:23 AM
230 singles full power? I think actually my legs would explode at that speed!!! :)

Casey K
03-30-2005, 05:43 AM
[QUOTE=mike portnoy]why joey (and why portnoy)???

cos koey kicks ass..AND portnoy kisses ass too manzz!:D :D :D :D :D :D yup!! there's the prob here in singapore as much as i luuurve metal..BUT all we have here is just ***** MTV!! not just any MTV its MTV asia!! ARGH!!!! screw BOYBANDS!!!!

Hey some boy bands Rule!!!
Metal is just another stile of music. :mad: :mad: :mad:
By the way, What dose ***** mean???

cjcdrums
04-02-2005, 02:45 PM
Ahem...

Chorus
It's tearin' up my heart when I'm with you
But when we are apart I feel it too
And no matter what I do I feel the pain
With or without you

Baby I don't understand
Just why we can't be lovers
Things are gettin' out of hand
Tryin' too much but baby we can't win

Let it go
If you want me girl let me know
I am down on my knees
I can't take it anymore

Chorus

Baby don't misunderstand
What I'm tryin' to tell ya
In the corner of my mind
Baby it feels like we're running out of time

Let it go
If you want me girl let me know
I am down on my knees
I can't take it anymore

Chorus

Tearin' up my heart my soul
We're apart I feel it too
And no matter what I do I feel the pain
With or without you

And no matter what I do I feel the pain
With or without you

vdreignsuponus1
04-02-2005, 02:47 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D

o man, those lyrics r so extreme! makes me wanna hurt little animals! GRRR!!

bevs_joey
04-02-2005, 04:00 PM
Ahem...

Chorus
It's tearin' up my heart when I'm with you
But when we are apart I feel it too
And no matter what I do I feel the pain
With or without you

Baby I don't understand
Just why we can't be lovers
Things are gettin' out of hand
Tryin' too much but baby we can't win

Let it go
If you want me girl let me know
I am down on my knees
I can't take it anymore

Chorus

Baby don't misunderstand
What I'm tryin' to tell ya
In the corner of my mind
Baby it feels like we're running out of time

Let it go
If you want me girl let me know
I am down on my knees
I can't take it anymore

Chorus

Tearin' up my heart my soul
We're apart I feel it too
And no matter what I do I feel the pain
With or without you

And no matter what I do I feel the pain
With or without you


F****N emo s**t. :mad:

cjcdrums
04-02-2005, 04:07 PM
Dude! That's classic N*Sync!

C.J.
04-03-2005, 10:09 AM
No comment.

johngregson
04-03-2005, 11:01 AM
Classic example of an A-level English poetry submission. Beautiful, in it's own way, really.

Genista96
04-03-2005, 04:24 PM
I'm on your side Virgil, of all the guys mentioned in this thread, nothing beats you, in terms of drumming in the overall aspect(speed, endurance, licks, finnese, etc).. I was once very hooked at Mike Portnoy's playing especially with his band, Dream Theater. His fills and groove really digged me right under. BUt after awhile, you'd noticed that his playing, over the years has been rather same.. He constantly uses the same pattern/lick over and over again, no dynamics, and this becomes unexciting anymore to listen to him..

Virgil to me, is balanced or rather extremely good in all areas... He's definitely the better drummer, and someone who we all, should pay close attention too..

My intention here is not to hurt anyone's feelings, but rather to show you guys how much of a Virgil fan I am and I'm with him, because of the impossible things he has proven in the drumming world.. :)

say it like it is brett...i agree

IronCobraMan
04-04-2005, 12:17 AM
u want some cheese on that ?

Maxizen
02-07-2006, 04:15 PM
Why Joey? (and why Portnoy?)

What happened to Reno Killerich, Derek Roddy, Gene Hoglan, Sean Reinert, Richard Christy, Pete Sandoval, Nick Barker and many others?

You might wanna check out Heavy Metal through other resources than MTV...

yeah, you're right, there are lots of great players

micha_7
02-07-2006, 04:25 PM
................................

frank
02-07-2006, 04:41 PM
I hate these old bull**** threads being brought up. No offence, just my opinion.

beebop
02-07-2006, 05:23 PM
Yeah, Slipknot is to metal what Good Charlotte is to the Ramones.


oh burn


joey's a good player

vdreignsuponus1
02-08-2006, 05:35 AM
why joey (and why portnoy)???

cos koey kicks ass..AND portnoy kicks ass too manzz!:D :D :D :D :D :D yup!! there's the prob here in singapore as much as i luuurve metal..BUT all we have here is just ***** MTV!! not just any MTV its MTV asia!! ARGH!!!! screw BOYBANDS!!!!

so all i can do is too rely on my internet!!:D :D if you have any good sites to recommend please do suggest, that will be greatly appreciated!!!

www.drummerworld.com

you'll find PLENTY better than joey..

beebop
02-08-2006, 03:31 PM
How can u call Joey overrated??Virgil is overrated!! I think you lot need a reality check if you dont think Joey is awesome!!! :mad: Just cause he hasnt been playin like 50 years like old man virgil here!Hes better than virgil and hes been playin a quarter of the time!! :D


joey is good, im not going to lie, but not at all technical like THE VIRG

TamaMan
02-08-2006, 04:33 PM
http://www.metal-empire.it/public/k...castdownopt.wmv
Yea... um... I know this is on the page about Nick Barker.. Now for our slipknot friend over here I just want to say this. I have been drumming for 5 years, and I can play any slipknot song if I wished to learn it. Just watch this video, see how metal drumming is really done, and just accept the fact that you are giving him wayyyyy to much credit...ok

TamaMan
02-08-2006, 04:34 PM
BTW.. they guy abouve me if you don't know is George Kollias.. drummer for Nile

TamaMan
02-08-2006, 04:35 PM
I mean the guy in the vid lol :p

TamaMan
02-08-2006, 04:38 PM
http://www.metal-empire.it/public/kollias/castdownopt.wmv
wow.. I suck at this ****, but if u see the vid its forth it
If it doesn't work Go to www.georgekollias.com and watch the vid for cast down the heritic

x86zero
02-08-2006, 06:18 PM
speaking of credit where credit is due:
http://www.vicfirth.com/artists/haake.html

worship that guy!

vdreignsuponus1
02-08-2006, 06:34 PM
wait wait..who resurrected this thread?! i just now realized it was THAT old

C.J.
02-09-2006, 02:30 AM
Looks like the responsable is TamaMan. Should we tell him George Kollias
is registered on this board? :p

TamaMan
02-09-2006, 10:43 PM
Looks like the responsable is TamaMan. Should we tell him George Kollias
is registered on this board? :p
If he is thats awesome, and if possiable like to speak with him. I had honestly never gotten into NILE but its because I never gave then a fair shot. But after seeing that video... I was blown away. I was always afraid to trying to fill while blasting, but after watching that video, I go all inspired and shredded my heads up!!!! BTW, why doesn't Tim Waterson play death metal... or if he does, please send me some music.

frank
05-15-2006, 08:55 AM
...............................

dreamtheater_US
05-19-2006, 07:23 AM
hey, I've read Joey is better than Virgil??that's a joke I suppose, because I think I'll never play Virgil stuff, and now I can play Joey's songs...nothing to do...

DrumsAreGood
05-21-2006, 12:26 PM
i'd also like to say this guy named Lord Marco in death metal is an up and comer. I saw a video of him playing with Vital Remains and he is pretty much as fast as I have seen a death metal drummer play.

Fourth
12-28-2006, 02:44 AM
Hahahah! I love this thread! Sorry for posting in this thread...I was bored, nothing to do online...My girlfriend and I are laughing with the "Joey kicks Virgil" thing...

Amazing. XD What a way to spend a few more days to the New Year! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

My opinion : Virgil would own Joey. That I'm sure. XD

FOURTH
"HAHAHAHAHAHA....*reads* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! - Me reading this thread. :D

vdreignsuponus1
12-28-2006, 10:35 AM
well i guess it doesn't really matter if you resurrect this thread anymore. i think we've lost all of the little joey people. but i'll keep an eye on it.. ;)

madmike
12-28-2006, 01:48 PM
well i guess it doesn't really matter if you resurrect this thread anymore. i think we've lost all of the little joey people. but i'll keep an eye on it.. ;)

If it'll help, I'll periodically post how badass Joey is, and how he'd crush Virgil.

(It's a total falsehood, but worth it to keep this thread alive :p )

Fourth
12-29-2006, 06:35 AM
Ooooh...let me start it! Let me start it!

Joey Jordison is bad ass coz, well, he can drum solo upside down. Imagine that! Doing all his single strokes in UPSTROKES. Virgil couldn't do that. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

FOURTH

Fonzydrum
12-29-2006, 08:56 AM
I agree with vdreignsuponus1 : no reason to resurrect this thread.

Anyway, let me tell you one thing.
We all have different tastes and there's no accounting for taste.

Just, don't make such comments on Virgil's skills.

Of course neither you nor I can play drums like them, so let Virgil in peace.

Milo Porto
12-31-2006, 02:19 PM
little slipknot boy would go home crying. i cant believe you even proposed him as a challenge, and stop using portnoys name!

i remember those days..i first registered for this forum a couple of years ago..i used the nick mike portnoy... i got flamed sooo hard.."i went home crying" :p

hense the nick milo porto = M. P. :p :D

DVN Rocks
05-26-2007, 08:12 AM
virgil all the way

Jameson
05-27-2007, 07:07 AM
Please don't bump old threads that have been forgotten to do that.....

beat103
05-29-2007, 01:31 PM
Virgil is one of the best without even thinking about it, he is a true master of the art of drumming.

But in now way does that give other drummers the right to ripoff any other genre or players .

To all the "know it alls" go learn a deathmetal song at 265 (burning pits of duat by nile ) and blast with one foot . till you can do that shut your ****ing mouths and stop putting down a genre you know nothing about . Why dont you all post videos of your amazing skills, what gives you the right to put down joey (irrespective of his skills ), and other drummers in the metal genre?!

joey is good no matter what people say , his just not the best . (where the **** did this hating come from for him he inspired thousands of kids to take up the beautiful art of drumming is that such a bad thing if ppl respect him ? )

less critisizing , more practicing

Matthias
05-29-2007, 01:51 PM
To all the "know it alls" go learn a deathmetal song at 265 (burning pits of duat by nile ) and blast with one foot . till you can do that shut your ****ing mouths and stop putting down a genre you know nothing about .
I agree with your post in general, but here it stops: We had that a thousand times already on that board, you DON'T have to be able to play certain things in order to be allowed to critizise! That has nothing to do with each other.

And I believe the reason for criticism against death metal is a) the lack of "music" and creativity - it's mainly mechanics, technique, physics (see your defense: Blast at 265bpm with one foot - what has that to do with music?) and b) the lack of dynamics.

hemi
05-29-2007, 08:35 PM
I agree with your post in general, but here it stops. We had that a thousand times already on that board, you DON'T have to be able to play certain things in order to be allowed to critizise! That has nothing to do with each other.

And I believe the reason for criticism against death metal is a) the lack of "music" and creativity - it's mainly mechanics, technique, physics (see your defense: Blast at 265bpm with one foot - what has that to do with music?) and b) the lack of dynamics.

And I believe the reason for criticism against death metal is a) the lack of "music" and creativity

And here's where the second problem starts. What you THINK is music another person doesn't. I could say the same thing about prog!! boring and has no feeling. Every country, every person has a different view on music. Yours and others narrow views is what has effected this board tremendously. The posting has all but come to a halt for a looooong time. But I don't think too many here are that upset about it from the flaming the metal guys have gotten when they defend "THEIR MUSIC" I like talking to Peter, but that's really about it as I look back. Too many haters and click type people it seems..

Just seen this as I was checking up on Peters pedal thread.. Haha..

Matthias
05-30-2007, 12:28 AM
Hey hemi! Has been a long time...! A long time since I visited your board too...

Well I'm a bit sad that you consider me being one of the "haters" with a narrow view. I don't believe I am! I enjoy listening to many many styles of music... I myself had my time of listening to metal, and I pretty much liked it. But I believe certain people mistake speed, aggression or complexity for music, good, or better. That can all be, but they're no synonyms! And this is my opinion (the lack of feel and more importantly dynamics). By the way, I just summed up the critical arguments for death metal anyway, not as my opinion, although I quite agree with them.

Yes you certainly CAN say the same about prog! That would be your opinion, and I see nothing bad in that. I don't like prog too much anymore either, and I was a huge DT fan.

And now the most important thing: I just answered beat103 to stop writing that "you can't play this so you can't critizise"-stuff, and to say that you absolutely can't bring blasting at 265 as a MUSICAL argument, which I hope you see the same way too, or I will not understand the world anymore...

Matthias
05-30-2007, 12:42 AM
I like talking to Peter, but that's really about it as I look back.

By the way, so you say except for Peter we're all haters and narrow minded? Well, good for you, but I think you're quite wrong, and it sounds a bit narrow minded itself.

And - I'm sorry to write too much about it, but I somewhat felt attacked - please show me one "hater" post of mine! I don't want to do that, and I hope I don't. Bashing no, expressing opinion and stating facts yes.

Maybe my post before hemi was a bit harsh. I have nothing against Death Metal in general, and those who listen to it, there's good and bad stuff out there as in any style, and you're right, I can't say what's music and what not, but I stay with my points of lacking dynamics and creativity. There ARE creative players, but they're special. But one can criticize a lot or even all styles of music.

Last but not least I'm again with beat103: less critisizing , more practicing:).

cjcdrums
05-30-2007, 02:09 AM
The value of any art is not in the art itself but in the way people tend to perceive it.

Is YOUR OPINION of art something YOU create or rather a INHERENT TRAIT of the art itself?

Loreman
05-30-2007, 04:34 AM
Another CJCDrums classic...

electrizer
05-30-2007, 04:41 AM
this post should be an official forum cure for bad mood or depression. soooooo pointless :D:D:D

beat103
05-30-2007, 09:01 AM
I agree with your post in general, but here it stops: We had that a thousand times already on that board, you DON'T have to be able to play certain things in order to be allowed to critizise! That has nothing to do with each other.

And I believe the reason for criticism against death metal is a) the lack of "music" and creativity - it's mainly mechanics, technique, physics (see your defense: Blast at 265bpm with one foot - what has that to do with music?) and b) the lack of dynamics.

NOW WHO ARE YOU TO GO AND SAY THE BLAST BEAT IS not musical?

have you seen George kollias or Derek roddy play before ? they make the blast beat musical , they do things with that beat which is virtually almost impossible but in a musical way.

People can criticize , but constructively ..... WTF WHO GIVES SOME IDIOT THE RIGHT TO GO SAY "I HATE HIM "OR "THIS GUY IS BETTER"?....maybe that drummer is playing what the music requires ? ... does everything have to be stick twirls and fills for a drummer or band to be good , there are millions of ways a band can be good , musicality , feeling , groove, speed , ferocity ,depends what each person wants out of the music he/she listens to

Matthias
05-30-2007, 09:48 AM
Beat103, I don't know whether you mean me or not, but I never said I hated anyone. I believe you can say someone is better actually though.
I also never said anything about stick twirls or fills.
AND I also did not mention the blast beat.

BUT I say a big part of death metal music has little to no dynamics, no feel and groove (like I understand this), and barely something creative. And my conclusion would be boring and not very musical. Bash me for that if you want, but don't bash me for things I didn't say.

Oh, and yes I've seen George and Derek of course. I believe Derek is a special talent, not the average metal drummer (I've seen that kind too), and he is of course a great drummer and technician in the metal and rock world. Did I ever say anything negative about them, or anything at all? I don't believe so.

hemi
05-30-2007, 09:55 AM
In Matthias defense, HE really is not a hater. I also didn't say "everyone" was a hater.. I've really had nothing but good interaction with Matthias.
Too many haters and click type people it seems.
I can also say Matthias has been an upstanding member never causing a problem at CSM and we've enjoyed having around.

As far as a pointless thread, it is to those who don't look at the other side. Again, it's all subject to interpretation on YOU as an individual. We are not machines and are not all programmed to like and dis-like the same things.

I stayed here for quit a while at Virgils forum. "This is what I considered my forum home" I put up with the death metal hostility for quit a long time. Looking back I never seen it as a threat, I just seen it as a lot of people here didn't care for it. I also seen it as a challenge more or less. :) It was Virgils doubles that inspired me and put me where I am.

But what I learned is boards are designed for certain things, either out of demand or nature takes it course, Nature dictates here, there will be fans of Virgil and his style of playing. Which also in turn dictates the taste/style of drumming that's present here. That's where the click is formed. It's extremly hard for anyone to change that. I however am a fan of Virgils when he palys in Rock style playing and earlier stuff instead of prog. That's why I came here.

Be easy on them beat103. Explain your side with knowledge. Try and show them your side. If they can't see it. Then again, it's time for yet another member to move on. Trust me there's always places to discuss Virg :)

I apoligize if I offended you Matthias.

motorcity1
06-01-2007, 01:29 PM
Just came up. This is Mike Machine Mallais, the guy who broke Tim Waterson and Mike Mangini's Fastest Feet speed drumming records.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thc32oyGzq4

It's a silly video but entertaining.

People at NAMM said his taunting of Waterson was just a put on. They're supposed to be good friends and it was Tim who encouraged Mike to go after his records anyway. He seems like a really nice guy, gets along with everybody and especially admires all the great drummers.

frank
06-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Those are single strokes. Great performance, no doubt!

BUTTTTT.. Tim still PWNZ EVERYBODY at double strokes! :D

Sean McPayn
06-02-2007, 08:27 PM
just letting you know that were talking VIRGIL DONATI and other GOOD drummers like Dave and Phillips. Its cool if slipknot is your hero, ok. But please go elswere were for not as talanted as virg people and so on.

Anybody who replyed to this thread is a ****ing moron. Including me for wasting my time.

Matthias
06-03-2007, 01:56 AM
In Matthias defense, HE really is not a hater. I also didn't say "everyone" was a hater.. I've really had nothing but good interaction with Matthias.

I can also say Matthias has been an upstanding member never causing a problem at CSM and we've enjoyed having around.

As far as a pointless thread, it is to those who don't look at the other side. Again, it's all subject to interpretation on YOU as an individual. We are not machines and are not all programmed to like and dis-like the same things.

I stayed here for quit a while at Virgils forum. "This is what I considered my forum home" I put up with the death metal hostility for quit a long time. Looking back I never seen it as a threat, I just seen it as a lot of people here didn't care for it. I also seen it as a challenge more or less. :) It was Virgils doubles that inspired me and put me where I am.

But what I learned is boards are designed for certain things, either out of demand or nature takes it course, Nature dictates here, there will be fans of Virgil and his style of playing. Which also in turn dictates the taste/style of drumming that's present here. That's where the click is formed. It's extremly hard for anyone to change that. I however am a fan of Virgils when he palys in Rock style playing and earlier stuff instead of prog. That's why I came here.

Be easy on them beat103. Explain your side with knowledge. Try and show them your side. If they can't see it. Then again, it's time for yet another member to move on. Trust me there's always places to discuss Virg :)

I apoligize if I offended you Matthias.
Good post hemi, and thank you, it's alright.
I think you're right somewhat, although I believe there are friends of more styles here on the board than you think! Mostly rather the technical freaks, and the douple pedal fans that's true, but's the forum is about the groove too, and about teaching, which I especially like.

I have to come to CSM sometime again!!

pottsmetalhead
11-20-2007, 05:52 PM
This to me is pretty obvious, Virgil and Tim Waterson! \m/

pottsmetalhead
11-20-2007, 05:54 PM
Hello, i can get out 250 bpm but not for long at all. But...i can hit 190 bpm for a minute. ANy endurance tips?

pottsmetalhead
11-20-2007, 05:57 PM
[quote] This Is The Hour Of Ruin

pottsmetalhead
11-20-2007, 06:01 PM
You wanna see a fast drummer check out "Blastphemer" on youtube. Also check out HELLHAMMER

cjcdrums
11-20-2007, 06:03 PM
Here's a thread that refuses to die.

frank
11-20-2007, 06:03 PM
Good god man...

First of all: Welcome to this message board!

Second of all: Three consecutive posts is a bit over-doing it. You can use the EDIT button if you have something to add to a previous post in a particular thread and no replies have been posted in the meanwhile. If you'd feel uncomfortable doing so, just say: "[Edit:] Blabla..." or whatever. :)

Third: This thread is ... argh! :o

pottsmetalhead
11-20-2007, 06:04 PM
Here's a thread that refuses to die.
leggo my eggo... :p

frank
11-20-2007, 06:07 PM
What does that mean anyway, leggo my ego? :confused:

Edit: My previous post said three consecutive posts, but apparently it's four now.

pottsmetalhead
11-20-2007, 06:11 PM
What does that mean anyway, leggo my ego? :confused:

Edit: My previous post said three consecutive posts, but apparently it's four now.
Hell dude, i dont know! :) sorry i put on so many threads :(

frank
11-20-2007, 06:12 PM
Hey don't worry about it. :)

Browse around, enjoy this board and keep on rocking!

pottsmetalhead
11-20-2007, 06:15 PM
Hey don't worry about it. :)

Browse around, enjoy this board and keep on rocking!
Will do dude, will do...:)

cjcdrums
11-20-2007, 11:17 PM
What does that mean anyway, leggo my ego? :confused:

Its a not-very-clever play on words. There used to be a slogan for Eggo Waffles in their commercials, at the end they would always have some kid screaming "Leggo my Eggo!" when some other kid took their waffles.

Anyways I use it to remind myself to try and "let go" of my ego, or perceived self-image. I just don't want to be a slave to what I think other people will think. Does that make sense?

frank
11-21-2007, 07:11 AM
Ah yes, I get it.

Man, that's lame. :p

cjcdrums
11-21-2007, 11:15 AM
Ah yes, I get it.

Man, that's lame. :p

Lol yeah it is isnt it.

electrizer
11-21-2007, 01:17 PM
well, to me it's pretty clever but who am i to judge? ;)

Bryce.bc
11-21-2007, 11:53 PM
I agree! It's an admirable reminder... I'm stealing it.

pottsmetalhead
01-06-2008, 07:52 PM
2 words GEORGE KOLLIAS!

frank
01-06-2008, 08:21 PM
YAY THIS THREAD STILL LIVES!!1one

Milo Porto
01-08-2008, 01:52 AM
YAY THIS THREAD STILL LIVES!!1one

HHAHHA... this thread was about the time when i first joined this forum..LOL

it has got to be the longest running thread in this forum's history to date, its freaking 5 years old!! LOL

:p