View Full Version : Incorporation of a polyrhythmic groove

01-14-2010, 02:48 AM
Hi All!

Just a question. I came up with a groove which is sort of a 3 over 4 and now I wanted to use it in a song however I'm lacking certain theoretical expertise on how to internalise the groove properly. Here's the link to the MIDI file:


My question is: when you have a polyrhythms like that do you practice the ostinato mercilessly until your leading hand plays it mechanichally without your attention over whatever you want to play with your other hand OR do you practice the groove as a string of consecutive notes played by both hands? Am I making sense here?

Thanks for help

01-14-2010, 10:35 AM
Cool stuff:). To me it has mostly to do with your hearing. I'd practice 3:4 in different ways and tempos, until it's a part of you that comes out naturally. i.e. have your metronome play 4s while you play 3 over it, in various tempos and stickings (also doubles, paradiddles, alternating hand/foot etc).

01-16-2010, 08:44 AM
this reminds me of alien hip hop in a way. slow the tempo down. try to hear all the relations between bd, snare and hihat and try to nail it. you need to be able to hear fast and understand what you do for an accurate execution. that's most important I think. from there it's just practicing, so I guess I don't really understand your question. :)

01-17-2010, 03:00 AM
Yep I would practice it slow too, and put a shuffle pattern on the hi-hat.

Sort reminds me of the pattern in meshuggah's beneath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PevpScGuh_k <-- listen from 0:37 onwards

I love that groove.

01-17-2010, 04:20 AM
You're right Dre, it sound kinda Meshuggah (not intended though ;))

What the snare and kick play is dictated by the song whereas I added that ostinato to create that cool effect. I wanted to play it here, in the part starting at 2:49:


And, of course, thanks to all of you guys for advice!