View Full Version : Controversy! (not really)

04-08-2005, 07:51 AM
Just a quick question,
When watching the Live at the Astoria DVD, it looked like Virgil was playing Zildjian sticks. I freeze framed at a good shot of him and his stick bag up close, and sure enough, he was playing Zildjian sticks. Was this a Vater stuff up or some thing else?

Just curious

04-08-2005, 09:23 AM
I've noticed that too. The DVD was shot in 2001, so I figured he didn't use Vater drum sticks.

04-08-2005, 05:46 PM
well, his assults came out in '99! so hmm..

04-08-2005, 06:18 PM
lars ulrich

04-17-2005, 10:48 AM
yah i also noticed it

04-17-2005, 02:10 PM
Maybe Vater couldn't get his sticks to him and so he had to use something else...

04-26-2005, 12:25 PM
When I saw him with Vai in Vienna, he had some of his sticks (probably Assault) drilled a bit. Now that's odd. It was three holes approx. at the pivot point. Don't know why would that be good for.

04-26-2005, 03:40 PM
Hum... I'd like to know what that's all about... Very wierd indeed.

06-14-2005, 12:12 PM
zildjian company may be is trying a little courtship at virgil
so he would shift to them thus giving him some supply of sticks.
hehe, why not as long it's free.

06-14-2005, 12:28 PM
Virgil was playing Vater.

This came up a long time ago, and I asked if people could tell me excactly where they froze the DVD. I have it, and went meticulously (spello) through it. Didn't find anything else but Vater, Vater, Vater.

06-15-2005, 01:56 AM
That's wierd, I found that part too and I'm 80% sure I read Zildjian.

06-15-2005, 12:38 PM
lol, it doesn't matter as long as virgil is happy.

Insane Drummer
06-15-2005, 08:46 PM
The level of obsession on this board scares me.

06-16-2005, 01:47 AM
There is no obsession dudes, don't think we spend our lives checking that detail out. Ultimately, I don't care what sticks Virgil used on those two nights, he played a hell of a show and revived the essence of Steve's Passion and Warefare album. Go Virg go!!

06-16-2005, 10:15 AM
The level of obsession on this board scares me.
Many people obsessed with Virgil or any other drumming great are phenomenal players themselves.

The obsession over certain players stems from an obsession over the instrument they play, which is the IMO only way to achieve mastery over it.

One of the steps of mastering something, by the way, is emulating your influences, and the best of the best. It's one of the most efficient ways to learn new material.

06-16-2005, 12:42 PM
There is obsession dudes, we do spend our time checking that detail (and many others out). :p

Wow Cjc, you for sure gonna be the upcomming guru on this board.

Kinetic drummer
06-16-2005, 01:41 PM
we are his students!