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Anders
08-24-2004, 07:49 AM
hi, my drum instructor and i was talking about Dog Boots...

and he says that it is 32nd-notes Virgil are playing.....

but it is double strokes...rigth??? :confused:

jimi
08-24-2004, 08:45 AM
200 bpm double strokes = 16th notes!

Anders
08-24-2004, 11:43 AM
thanks jimi...

peter
08-24-2004, 11:45 AM
Jimi,

Doesn't it depend on how you're counting it?

jimi
08-24-2004, 11:51 AM
I was going on how i feel them when i hear the song and also the transcription from MD mag. But im definite Virgil sees them as 16ths ...

alencore
08-24-2004, 12:01 PM
your instructor is totally correct. 32nd notes using doubles of course.

so one quarter note simply has this 32nd note figures....rrllrrll although virg does it like this i think...rllrrllr.

Anders
08-24-2004, 12:03 PM
yes...but he don't belive that it is double strokes

alencore
08-24-2004, 12:13 PM
well, you better make him watch some virgil vids or else he'll be a dumb ass teacher...lol.

rythmtroll
08-24-2004, 03:49 PM
Too bad Virgil beginds to burn out hard towards a little after the middle of Dog Boots. Its all weak and vauge at the end. hey dont even sound like double strokes at the end. Gay

slamnovalis
08-24-2004, 06:53 PM
your instructor is totally correct. 32nd notes using doubles of course.

so one quarter note simply has this 32nd note figures....rrllrrll although virg does it like this i think...rllrrllr.

Weak and Whack. You're "overcomplicating" it when it comes to notating the groove.

Instead of playing straight 2 and 4 and straight quarters on the hats, which I as well as many others would agree to be a simpler and a much more comprehendable transcription, you're (obviously) doubling everything maybe to save space on paper.

I don't know, maybe it's just my realist side speaking, but you know... like I said, seems easier to me if it's notated as Jimi said-- straight 16th note inverted double strokes at 200bpm.

alencore
08-25-2004, 07:48 PM
lol...no i'm not trying to overcomplicate it. it's just the way i understand it in terms of note value per quarter note. it's totally elementary. i just didn't bother writing the whole bar obviously. well atleast we agree on inverted doubles figures.

D.W.A.
08-25-2004, 09:23 PM
am i the only one that doesnt have rythmtroll ignored?.......lmao

slamnovalis
08-26-2004, 09:38 AM
am i the only one that doesnt have rythmtroll ignored?.......lmao

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.

peter
08-26-2004, 11:55 AM
Yes. I believe the instructor is correct, along
with Alencore.

If 16th notes are 4 to every qtr., then 32nd
notes are 8 to every qtr. and that's what we
have when we double the 16th notes on the
kick. The important thing is to stop talking
about it and do it and I KNOW YOU CAN. :)

alencore
08-26-2004, 06:58 PM
hehe...agree....let's do the doubles on thy feets like crazy.

slamnovalis
08-26-2004, 08:12 PM
Ha, I agree, Peter. Might I also add that I wasn't thinking when I type "quarters on the hats." I honestly did mean 8ths.... and since I can play it, I'd like to talk about it some more:)