foot problem

[wcm_ambas]

helo, i have a problem with my foot, i can't get the correct way, i play single but not fast i loose control with my feet, is it the tension of the spring, i already adjusted it to very light tension or do i have to tighten the spring tension?, i play heels up. what is the good advice for me? i need help on this. thanks!

[GreenPremier]

wcm,
Keep practice, it seriously just takes time and experience. Work on doing doubles between your hands and your foot, or different sticking combinations just to build control,
hope this helps a bit

[peter]

WA,

Check all the related threads on this subject.
We have talked about here and quite a bit. I
think you will find ideas.

Use the SEARCH feature. Just type in drum-
pedal and it wil go to town.

Don't worry. You will be improving very soon.

:D

[wcm_ambas]

thank for help, but besides i need to know the right setup for pedals, do i need to set the beater closer at the head? th tension? what do you think?

[wcm_ambas]

thanks peter, i'm watching ryt now your solo video, what a solo!!!! i wish i could do that, i need to improve myself. goodluck and thanks!!!

[Lad.]

WOAH! A peter solo? Where! I must see it! AHHHH

[GreenPremier]

It's pretty frickin' good, I wish I could play like that...I suck balzacks..

[GreenPremier]

wcm, it's up to you to decide what you want your pedals to be set up like, just experiment and find what feels best. I find I like a medium-loose spring tension with the beater about 45 degrees. i use the Eliminators with the red cam and the strap pulled all the way back so the pedal board is raised...
All I like to play is metal and double bass/blast beats...I want to practice other stuff..but I find that most of my practice sensions are playing blast beats and double bass for the whole time...oh well..life goes on

[alencore]

yeah a 45 degree beater is good enough in my experience with a slightly loose spring tension. heel up is good. although i use a slide up approach on playing simple two 16th notes figures. wish my left can do that as well so i can play doogbots...LOL!

just keep practicing and fine tuning your set up. it's a long process but soon you'll get fine results in the long run.

lalu ka ng titindi nyan pre, hehehe.

[mortendrummer]

helo, i have a problem with my foot, i can't get the correct way, i play single but not fast i loose control with my feet, is it the tension of the spring, i already adjusted it to very light tension or do i have to tighten the spring tension?, i play heels up. what is the good advice for me? i need help on this. thanks!
dont think too much about pedal-adjustmens (not that it dont have any importance at though...) instead try to avoid tension and concentrate to relax the faster you play.... try doing rudiments with your feets.... stonekillers(from joe morellos "master studies") parradiddles...there are so many ways, but find something that works for you and stick to it, its always just a matter of time... but most important: relaxation is the key!!! good luck!

[peter]

If you are using Eliminators, try the
radical red and blue cams. If you have
the new purple one, try that one.

Set up your Power-Shifter all the way
in towards the kick. At first, avoid ten-
sion and as suggested already, seek to
relax as much as possible.

:)

[Piercing_Light]

I have a horrible time with the kick drums too. If I play heels down, I can get very rapid bursts of hits, but it's really erratic and it only lasts for a split second. As for heels up, it feels like I'm falling over side to side, and I can keep time, but I get tired very quickly. Another thing I noticed heels up, is that most of the time the lead beat shifts to my left foot! I've been practicing very slowly, trying to get it all evened out, but it's just not working for me.

[peter]

Try the Eliminator pedals. They're
well-priced and the varied cams of-
fer you the best chances at find-
that right spot to work from.

Chances are you will work with the
red or purple cams, if you are find-
ing your feet hard to control.

Double whatever you do with your
hands on your feet (simultaneously).

rlrl-rlrl-rlrl-rlrl

rrll-rrll-rrll-rrll

rll-rll-rll-rll

lrr-lrr-lrr-lrr

rlrr-lrll-rlrr-lrll

lrll-rlrr-lrll-rlrr

rlrll-rlrll-rlrll-rlrll

lrlrr-lrlrr-lrlrr-lrlrr

Do these slow and deliberately.

:)

[Piercing_Light]

I actually am using the Pearl Eliminators with the red cams (purple cams!? where!?) and the foot board pushed forward all the way, but just the other day I tried sitting differently... and I found this position where I have a real balance and control. But I'm not sure how to get back there again lol You guys notice anything about how you sit?

[kev82]

i tend to raise my seat until my lets are at about a 100º-110º angle, some consider this too high but whatever... as far as finding the best balance and control: first of all you've got to learn to play relaxed. fast hard & even dynamic double bass doesn't sound relaxed, but its gotta be for consitency's sake. setting up your pedal is a personal comfort thing, i like my springs medium-loose and my beaters at about 45º, footboard angle is in the middle somewhere. i've found that if you exercise your legs playing heel down, playing both very very hard and very soft and everywhere inbetween, for 20-30 minutes a day just doing simple patterns like peter suggested above, then do it heel up and try to 'combine' the two techniques for another 20-30 minutes, eventually (with daily practice, a few weeks) your feet will start to feel like they are floating on the pedals and you can play pretty much just like your hands. dont try and play fast right away, this takes time and lots of repetition. play slow and gradually move faster, and then back down again. (you heel up players will feel strong burn in the shins at first, eat bananas or take potassium..it helps) if you're getting tired fast, you're probably trying to use your legs way too much.. most of the work is done by very small muscles in the lower leg, ankle, and foot. your thighs should only move up and down around an inch or so. also, i saw a hi-hat pedal technique on steve smiths double dvd where he rocks his foot from heel to toe while playing 2&4 jazz grooves. using that is working wonders for my left foot bass drum technique.
ps: sorry to you pearl freaks out there, but i gotta represent the iron cobras.

[wcm_ambas]

thanks for your help, i will work on that, hope it will work for me!!!! thanks i love this msgeboard!!!!!