Crossover

[dogboots]

Hello Friends!

Is anyone familliar with the music style "crossover"? It´s a mixture of rap and metall. But I don´t know the difference between new- metall and crossover. This isn´t really the kind of music I listen to. (privatly)

So here´s the point:

A local band asked me to lay down the drum parts for there Demo. They are semi- pro´s, so I´d like to do a good job.
Could anyone give me some tip´s, how I should approach this music with


-What to play (to fit the genre)
-How to play it (attitude, feeling)
-Sound of Drums
-How much to play (chop wise, to not overplay and not to sound boring)

Any tips or comments would be greatly apreaciated. Anyone has similar experiences?

The band has two songs available on the inet @:

http://www.wucht.net/

Click on @ohr and on the cd pic.

Thanks guys...

Yannic

[morgenthaler]

Hi Dogboots!

Crossover actually is just a term for genre crossing,- meaning anything compelled of different styles,- Like... Rock / Fusion or Electro / Jazz.
Crossover in other words is any kind of music where you can't quite make up which style or "box" it belongs in. A good example would be The Dave Matthews Band! Some people would call it pop or country, others Rock, and others again Folk, - because they (the band) bring in elements from all these styles that make up their sound!

I would say that the best way to prepare yourself for the recording is to study the music as thoroughly as possible prior to the studiotime, and maybe interview the band abit...: Which other drummers do they like? Which bands do they want to sound like and so on,- This way you'll have a good idea of the way you need to sound when they press the REC button!

[MaltBuddow3]

I'd like to add that you've got to believe in yourself and know that you can do a great job. I like what Paul Liem said in the MD Fest 2000... someone said they got nervous when the red "REC" light went on in the studio, and he wanted advice to get rid of the butterfly's. Paul, a Nashville session master, said, "You're there because they want you there," and if they didn't have absolute faith in you then you wouldn't have been asked to record for them.
I read an ancient MD article my teacher gave me, it's about visualizing the end result. Basically just giving yourself positive vibes before you go in, going through the entire process in your mind before you actually record. Start with imagining yourself arriving early and getting set up and tuned quickly and easily. Imagine the session going smoothing, everyone is completely relaxed, and your playing is perfectly in the pocket and just what they want. Imagine everyone laughing and just having a great time. Imagine that at the end of the session everyone in the band is totally stoked because you played the perfect part and were easy to work, and everyone in the studio is smiling and saying "Thank you so much" and you say "Thank you, it was a lot of fun" back to them. The author of the article stressed visualizing the "thank you" part, because that humble attitude will take you a long way in the gigging world.

So just stay relaxed and know you're the man for the job and all will be well!

Good luck!!!

[C.J.]

I have barely any experience in recording, but I wanted to wish you good luck !

[iwishiwasbetter]

I've played that kind of music for a while and I say you should a cranked up snare, maybe even invest in a piccolo snare, and have a deep sounding bass drum with lots of attack. Toms are kind of up to you but the snare and bass usually follow those guidelines. For your beats it would probably go best to follow the guitar pretty close.

[dogboots]

Thanks alot guys.

@morgenthaler: Thanks, I dindn´t know that ;)

@Malt: Yes, you´re right, I guess it´s important to belive in yourself when it comes to recording. I think I have to work on that, because I am my worse critic and don´t know to shut it of, other than REALLY play well ;)

@CJ: Thanks ;) You should start to collect some recording xperiences, too. It´s fun and you are really forced to practice precition.

@iwishiwasbetter: I had the same feeling soundwise. Most of the nu-metall stuff I know (not to much) kinda follows the lines.
You seem to know something about this kinda music. could you suggest me any bands worth listening for that gig? Thanks.



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[blueturnswhite]

ok something i am a pro in, crossover=nu metal, for the most part.. I am so burned out on this genre, but i can give you insight. For a snare tone, go buy a Orange county snare, 20-30 ply. Now put a remo falam2 head on it and crank the shit out of it, play all rimshots. For the kit, clicky and beefy (emad with fiberdisks and hard plastic or wood beaters. Technique, play in a rap sort of way, think drum machine....listen to ?uestlove from the Roots...if you want to chop it up, listen to my bros Candiria, they mix hip-hop, jazz, and hardcore...they are amazing....sorry if i sound jaded on this style, I am

[dogboots]

;) Thanks for your insight blueturnswhite. Yes, you did sound jaded ;)